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Politics

Don't Trust the Experts. Make Them Up!

Plus: Trade with China is basically crippled, FEMA weans NYC, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 4.9.2025 9:30 AM

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Paging Ron Vara: If you were, say, a White House trade adviser who had been part of crafting the tariff plan that a) relied on a ChatGPT-based formula that makes no sense and levied tariffs on islands full of penguins, b) tanked the global economy, and c) was, so far, shockingly unpopular, wouldn't you want to put it all on someone else and have experts reaffirm your credibility?

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Conveniently, the aforementioned Peter Navarro has his China hawk alter ego, Ron Vara. (Vara's writing, from 2011: "Only the Chinese can turn a leather sofa into an acid bath, a baby crib into a lethal weapon, and a cellphone battery into heart-piercing shrapnel." Well, OK!) Vara hasn't made an appearance just yet, but he's part of Navarro's rise to prominence.

Truly. I did not make this up. I'm not sure I even could.

Navarro's books contain repeated references to a man named Ron Vara, and in 2019 he co-authored a memo—advocating for tariffs—using that alter ego.

"Vara is a military veteran and Harvard-trained economist who made seven figures in the stock market by investing in companies that do well during international crises," in Navarro's telling, reported Tom Bartlett at The Chronicle of Higher Education in 2019. This has, per Navarro's books, earned him the nickname "Dark Prince of Disaster."

Why would Vara be valuable to Navarro? Well, Navarro is a bit of a Johnny-come-lately to China hawkdom and expertise, having only first traveled there in 2018 and having no Mandarin knowledge or deep background; Vara's expertise—though made up—is something Navarro can rest on to back up his arguments. Or, perhaps Navarro uses Vara as a sort of imaginary friend, someone to consult with during long nights in his office. I get it, I have a toddler, we do lots of imaginary friends. I just didn't know they were being used to lend credibility to our nation's economic policy.

Navarro told The Chronicle of Higher Education that Vara was a "whimsical device and pen name I've used throughout the years for opinions and purely entertainment value, not as a source of fact," which is…not true (just as his there-will-be-no-recession talking point earlier this week is not likely to be true, either). He also apparently compared the invented character to "Alfred Hitchcock appearing briefly in cameo in his movies." (Some of Navarro's coauthors through the years, like Glenn Hubbard, former dean of Columbia University's business school, were not aware that Vara was made up, for what it's worth, and were not happy with this revelation.)

(More Navarro from Eric Boehm here and here. TLDR? He might be just as bad as Bernie Sanders—and just as economically illiterate.)

Anyway, this brings me to the Musk feud.

On Saturday, Elon Musk took to X to mock Navarro's doctorate from Harvard, calling it a "bad thing, not a good thing." Navarro used a Fox News hit to claim Musk's opposition to these tariffs is wholly self-interested: "Elon sells cars. He's simply protecting his own interests."

Then, Navarro kept hitting back via cable news hits: "We all understand in the White House—and the American people understand—that Elon's a car manufacturer. But he's not a car manufacturer—he's a car assembler. If you go to his Texas plant, a good part of the engines that he gets, which in the EV case are the batteries, come from Japan and come from China. The electronics come from Taiwan….What we want—and the difference is in our thinking and Elon's on this—is that we want the tires made in Akron. We want the transmissions made in Indianapolis. We want the engines made in Flint and Saginaw. And we want the cars manufactured here." This, of course, ignores the fact that Teslas contain the most American-made parts of any car currently on the market. So Musk responded:

Navarro is truly a moron. What he says here is demonstrably false.

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) April 8, 2025

"By any definition whatsoever, Tesla is the most vertically integrated auto manufacturer in America with the highest percentage of US content," added Musk. "Navarro should ask the fake expert he invented, Ron Vara."

Musk, for his part, has been trying to get Trump to reverse course on tariffs, to no avail. In an interview with Italy's Deputy Prime Minister Matteo Salvini this past weekend, Musk said he hoped to see a "free trade zone" between Europe and the United States, not what Trump is pursuing: "At the end of the day, I hope it's agreed that both Europe and the United States should move ideally, in my view, to a zero-tariff situation."

"Who would have thought that Trump was actually the most high tax American President in generations," mused Musk's brother, Kimbal, on X. "Through his tariff strategy, Trump has implemented a structural, permanent tax on the American consumer."

104 percent tariffs: Earlier this week, it looked like Trump would impose 34 percent tariffs on China, per his Rose Garden address. Then, Beijing said it would in turn impose 34 percent retaliatory tariffs of its own on all U.S. goods. So Trump responded by tacking on another 50 percent to the China tariffs, which had up until recently stood at 20 percent. In total, that's a 104 percent tariff on Chinese goods. And China retaliated with 84 percent tariffs of its own.

All the higher tariff levels announced by the Trump administration go into effect today. It's a dark day for proponents of free trade, and it is not an exaggeration to say that the economic devastation that stems from these tariffs will be enormous, making it much harder for all Americans to afford groceries and basic household goods—not to mention building materials used to make houses, new appliances, cars, and all the stuff we've become accustomed to in our lifetimes.

Perhaps the most frustrating thing about this, other than the fact that we're basically all getting a lot poorer, is that there's really no coherent strategy or justification. Administration officials keep cycling through all kinds of talking points, from other countries are ripping us off to we need supply-chain independence from China for national security reasons to reshoring American manufacturing will revitalize the middle class to trade deficits are fundamentally unfair and a really big problem to this is all a negotiating tactic to create more free-trade agreements than before. There's also the tax cuts are coming super soon, which will offset the tariff pain talking point. But consider too that it's a bit of a Potemkin administration, from the formula used to calculate the tariffs—touted as reciprocal but, in fact, based on trade deficits, seemingly generated by ChatGPT—to the sources cited by its top advisers (like Ron Vara).

The problem is, even an administration as dumb as this one can crash the economy.


Scenes from New York: "The Federal Emergency Management Agency has terminated $188 million in grants to New York City to care for migrants, arguing that the money is being used to support illegal immigration," reports The New York Times. In February, $80 million went missing from city bank accounts after federal authorities rescinded funding. One problem: Mayor Eric Adams says all this money has already been spent.

I'm left with a lot of questions. Why was FEMA money given to my city in the first place? Why was it not used on American citizens? How did this qualify as an emergency? And how could the city have already spent it all? Where exactly did it go?


QUICK HITS

  • A very direct plea: Please do subscribe to our Just Asking Questions channel on YouTube. I know you're probably sick of my nudging, but we have some really good stuff coming out on tariffs, deportations, and due process this week and next.
  • The latest Zach Weissmueller joint, on Milton Friedman (who is probably rolling over in his grave right now):

  • The Trump administration is calling on migrants who entered the country under the Biden administration, and received parole protections via the CBP One app, to self-deport. "Roughly 985,000 people used the app to make appointments at a port of entry at the border, with those who entered often permitted to seek asylum and given temporary work authorization," reports The Hill.
  • A bipartisan group of senators, led by Sen. Rand Paul (R–Ky.), whom we spoke with yesterday on Just Asking Questions, and Sen. Ron Wyden (D–Ore.) have introduced a resolution that would repeal Trump's tariffs. "Our Founders were clear: tax policy should never rest in the hands of one person. Abusing emergency powers to impose blanket tariffs not only drives up costs for American families but also tramples on the Constitution. It's time Congress reasserts its authority and restores the balance of power," said Paul. (Our episode with him comes out later today.)
  • Are narratives of American decline real or imagined?

The trouble is the tariffs don't fix those other two issues, they just make it so you can no longer buy a flat-screen TV. https://t.co/fxYXdkTD6U

— Liz Wolfe (@LizWolfeReason) April 9, 2025

  • Expect much more like this:

California based manufacturer says it's halting hiring, eliminating overtime, and that it's seen a massive plunge in demand in recent days pic.twitter.com/G1TiyhKCXY

— Joe Weisenthal (@TheStalwart) April 9, 2025

 

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   1 month ago

    Don't Trust the Experts. Make Them Up!

    The expert class hasn't exactly draped itself in glory the past few years. Maybe Skynet can do better.

    1. Social Justice is neither   1 month ago

      Trusting experts is soon 2020 Reason clamoring to push anything Fauci has to say.

    2. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   1 month ago

      The expert class hasn't exactly draped itself in glory the past fifty years.

      Delenda Harvard.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   1 month ago

        You’re being generous. The expert class hasn’t exactly draped itself in glory over the past century.

      2. Stupid Government Tricks   1 month ago

        No, not the part of Harvard that gave Navarro and Vara their Economics PhDs. Only the rest of it.

    3. But SkyNet is a Private Company   1 month ago

      I try, I try

    4. Medulla Oblongata   1 month ago

      Tariffs paused...

      "Based on the fact that more than 75 Countries have called Representatives of the United States, including the Departments of Commerce, Treasury, and the USTR, to negotiate a solution to the subiects being discussed relative to Trade, Trade Barriers, Tariffs, Currency Manipulation, and Non Monetary Tariffs, and that these Countries have not, at my strong suggestion, retaliated in any way, shape, or form against the United States, I have authorized a 90 day PAUSE, and a substantially lowered Reciprocal Tariff during this period, of 10%, also effective immediately,"

      Market rallies, DOW back above 40k.

      China excepted...

      Trump: "Based on the lack of respect that China has shown to the World's Markets, I am hereby raising the Tariff charged to China by the United States of America to 125%, effective immediately. At some point, hopefully in the near future, China will realize that the days of ripping off the U.S.A., and other Countries, is no longer sustainable or acceptable,"

      Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent: "As I said a week ago today don't retaliate... And China kept escalating and escalating. Now they have 125% tariff that will be effective immediately."

      1. Don't get eliminated(Lying Jeffy thinks about people having anal sex with their sisters)   1 month ago

        Shocking!

  2. Fist of Etiquette   1 month ago

    ...Vara's expertise—though made up—is something Navarro can rest on to back up his arguments.

    Look, Ron Mexico's advice changed my life.

    1. Quicktown Brix   1 month ago

      Isn't that "Ron America" now?

    2. Anomalous   1 month ago

      I think at this point Dave Navarro is better qualified than Peter.

      1. SQRLSY   1 month ago

        Dave's snot here, man!

        (He's gone, and being impersonated by a Lizard Person.)

        (Also note that I have an Expert of Expertology named Alfred Weisenfart, with a degree from Planet Claire, who will back up EVERYTHING that I say!!!)

        1. SQRLSY   1 month ago

          I have snot just ONE, butt TWO, experts with VERY fancy degrees, supporting twat I say! The udder one is named SLUT-SQRL, and She has been trained by none udder than that them thar One and Only, Lonely, Supremely, Firmly Spermly Queen Spermy Daniels!

      2. But SkyNet is a Private Company   1 month ago

        You think Pete could bang anyone as hot as Carmen Electra?

        1. Don't get eliminated(Lying Jeffy thinks about people having anal sex with their sisters)   1 month ago

          Plus the last time The Red Hot Chili Peppers put out a decent album, was Pete playing guitar?

        2. Zeb   1 month ago

          Maybe with the right eyeshadow.

      3. Bipedal Humanoid   1 month ago

        You win the internet today.

  3. Fist of Etiquette   1 month ago

    In total, that's a 104 percent tariff on Chinese goods. And China retaliated with 84 percent tariffs of its own.

    Ha! We win.

    1. Fist of Etiquette   1 month ago

      Learn math, Xi.

      1. Ska   1 month ago

        The Chinaman is not the issue here, dude.

        1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   1 month ago

          There's the joke.

        2. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   1 month ago

          Okay, then. That rug really tied the room together, did it not?

        3. Ajsloss   1 month ago

          Please, Asian-American is the preferred nomenclature.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 month ago

            Fuck, now I have to watch that movie AGAIN.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   1 month ago

              Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, uh, your opinion, man.

              1. Ajsloss   1 month ago

                He's gotta feed the monkey.

              2. Dillinger   1 month ago

                nice marmot.

    2. Medulla Oblongata   1 month ago

      All the talk of tanking the economy and the long-term pain being set upon the people assumes these were meant to be real and long-term/permanent tariff levels and not a club meant to bully our trade partners into more favorable (more free) terms.

      News: "Speaking from the White House during an interview with Fox News Tuesday morning, National Economic Council Director Kevin Hasset revealed dozens of countries are pounding on the door for a tariff deal and that managing the number of requests for meetings is becoming difficult.

      1. Medulla Oblongata   1 month ago

        Tariffs paused...

        "Based on the fact that more than 75 Countries have called Representatives of the United States, including the Departments of Commerce, Treasury, and the USTR, to negotiate a solution to the subiects being discussed relative to Trade, Trade Barriers, Tariffs, Currency Manipulation, and Non Monetary Tariffs, and that these Countries have not, at my strong suggestion, retaliated in any way, shape, or form against the United States, I have authorized a 90 day PAUSE, and a substantially lowered Reciprocal Tariff during this period, of 10%, also effective immediately,"

        Market rallies, DOW back above 40k.

        China excepted...

        Trump: "Based on the lack of respect that China has shown to the World's Markets, I am hereby raising the Tariff charged to China by the United States of America to 125%, effective immediately. At some point, hopefully in the near future, China will realize that the days of ripping off the U.S.A., and other Countries, is no longer sustainable or acceptable,"

        Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent: "As I said a week ago today don't retaliate... And China kept escalating and escalating. Now they have 125% tariff that will be effective immediately."

  4. Fist of Etiquette   1 month ago

    ...it is not an exaggeration to say that the economic devastation that stems from these tariffs will be enormous...

    Yuge, even.

    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 month ago

      What will we do without TEMU and cheap shit? Life is over. Rage. Depression.

      I demand low quality, trademark infringed goods!

      The most hilarious part of this despair is that even with all the tariffs, the regulatory growth under Biden was still more than the costs of tariffs. But this is what they think will collapse the economy.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   1 month ago

        That is the funny part about all this. They still want access to the dirt cheap shit that falls apart in the box before you can even open it.

        1. Stupid Government Tricks   1 month ago

          No they don't. Elementary logic is beyond you. People don't keep buying stuff that falls apart in the box before they can even open it. They leave bad reviews, demand refunds, and buy something else.

          When I buy Harbor Freight tools and parts, it's because it's something I use too seldom to care if it falls apart ten years later. When I want tools that will last because I use them often, I buy good stuff elsewhere.

          Do you actually think people are dumber than you? Joke's on you.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 month ago

            Cool story. But how much do you spend on clothing, shoes, home decor, and useless kitchen gadgets?

            1. Stupid Government Tricks   1 month ago

              Cool non-sequitor. How much did you spend on that lousy ChatGPT session?

        2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 month ago

          What i find extra funny, outside of them continuing to ignore higher costs through regulations, is the fact that while they complain about inflation, their trade desires require an inflationary policy.

          A decades long trade deficit can only exist through inflationary means.

          If we were on the gold standard and sending out 5% of the money through trade deficits for decades, there would be deflation in the US due to removal of those funds. To counter that it would require printing money and planning for inflation. This is what the fed is actually doing.

          I don't think any of the reason economists, or the trade deficits are always good crowd, realize the outcome of their ideas.

          If the dollar wasn't the reserve currency and we could push fed inflationary policies due to that fact to other countries, the economy wouldn't grow.

          1. Stupid Government Tricks   1 month ago

            Again, with the economic illiteracy? What, do you have a Harvard PhD too, and get to redefine what trade deficit means? I'm told that certain Harvard PhDs are worth more than others. I betcha you got one of them too. College of Kellogg's? Or was it the Fruity Loops?

            1. sarcasmic   1 month ago

              He read a book about game theory and now he's an expert at economics.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   1 month ago

                Your projection is off the charts.

                1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   1 month ago

                  Sarc looked at the headline of a Paul Krugman opinion piece and now he's an expert at economics.

              2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 month ago

                Like STG you choose ignorance over actual understanding.

            2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 month ago

              What was illiterate? If is clear you dont understand economics at all. What was wrong?

              Congrats in getting other economically illiterate people on your side though.

              Your appeal to experts without citing experts is extra hilarious though. Extra funny calling out Harvard. Thought you claimed to be an Austrian economics student.

              1. Stupid Government Tricks   1 month ago

                You might try an actual rebuttal. Here, see if you can grok this:

                Buying imports means the foreign seller ends up with dollars. They could burn them, but more likely they use them to buy American goods and service. Or, wait for it, they pay salaries in the US, they build factories in the US, they buy businesses and land and warehouses and other investments in the US. They even buy government Treasurys.

                The trade deficit everyone talks about is only for goods and services. They always leave out investments. That's why the trade deficit is a deficit. That's why it is the same magnitude as the investments, but opposite sign.

                Trump wants to grow foreign investments while decreasing the trade deficit.

                He wants -1 to equal +1.

                He is an economic ignoramus.

                See if you can rebut that. It's not policy, it's not lawfare, it's not taxing penguins. It is a simple Econ 101 definition.

                You never have rebutted it, because you can't. You always drift off into 50 nations this, penguins that, because you know the truth and are scared to death of ever admitting Trump is wrong about anything.

                TDS personified.

                1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 month ago

                  Did you really just start with i should try an actual rebuttal after you used an ucited appeal to experts? Way to go sarc jr?

                  If the monetary supply is fixed and there is a negative trade deficit, what happens to said monetary supply domestically retard?

                  You keep talking about econ 101 but keep proving you have no fucking understanding of basics.

                  Just stick to screaming about penguins. It is less embarrassing.

                  1. Stupid Government Tricks   1 month ago

                    There you go again, changing the subject instead of rebutting what I wrote.

                    I wrote about Econ 101 basic definitions. You have never once even tried to challenge that. All you do is change the subject.

                    The only valid conclusion is that I am right, Trump is an ignoramus, and admitting Trump is not perfect scares you to death.

                    1. Truthfulness   1 month ago

                      You failed to answer his questions. Try again.

          2. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   1 month ago

            Yep. This is why there’s no gold standard, or any other standard than the petrodollar which the Fed can then print more of to compensate for the outflow. The dollar won’t be the reserve currency forever, and there seems to be no planning for that eventuality. It’s happened to the Spanish dollar, the pound sterling, and others in the past.

            1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 month ago

              The other tell youre dealing with morons like STG and sarc is they keep calling a price shock, one time impulse, inflation which is a monetary growth issue.

              The tariffs don't grow over time. It is a one time input into the system. Inflationary is exponential.

              But we're dealing with "economists" who get their information from journalists.

              1. Sometimes a Great Notion   1 month ago

                The tariffs don't grow over time

                Lol, Trump just increased that one time input.

                1. Don't get eliminated(Lying Jeffy thinks about people having anal sex with their sisters)   1 month ago

                  Really? I hadn’t heard about that. Do you have a source?

                2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 month ago

                  I'm so glad the sarcasian economics school is growing.

                  Way to completely not understand what was written.

              2. Stupid Government Tricks   1 month ago

                Uh, no. I have several times said the opposite, that inflation is strictly a growth in the money supply. I have always denied that raising specific prices is inflation.

                Try proving otherwise. Show me the link.

                You can't. You lie.

              3. Stupid Government Tricks   1 month ago

                You are also ignorant about tariffs being one-time. They affect every import, every day, all year long.

                Inflation is not exponential. You don't know what that word means either.

      2. Stupid Government Tricks   1 month ago

        No, the most hilarious part is the penguins, except no, that's only the second most hilarious part.

        The most hilarious part is how you think the penguins are funny only when I bring them up, because otherwise you'd have to admit Trump invented them, and you can't bear to admit Trump did anything stupid.

        Trump: PENGUINS!
        Trumpistas: *crickets*
        Realists, pointing fingers and laughing: Trump's an idiot, a moron, because he wants to tax penguins!
        Trumpistas: Look at these fools, fixated on penguins.
        Realists: Trump started it.
        Sarc: Democrats did it first, so it's ok.
        Trumpistas: Are you still fixated on penguins?

        Jesse, changing the subject: Businesses thrive on unpredictability, and besides, 50 countries say they want to open trade negotiations.
        Realists: Why would they trust Trump, when he's already violated the 15 existing trade agreements, including the USMCA which he negotiated?
        Jesse: Because Trump wants zero tariffs. WINNING!
        Realists: Then why did he impose tariffs on countries which already had zero tariffs?
        Jesse: You're still fixated on penguins!

        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   1 month ago

          TDS-addled steaming piles of shit: "Penguins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
          Fuck off and die, asshole.

          1. Stupid Government Tricks   1 month ago

            Aw, did your penguin's feelings get hurt?

            1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   1 month ago

              OK, asshole, I can't get this into one-syllable words, but let's see if I can make simple enough that TDS-addled imbeciles like you can understand:

              "But as to the penguins, I love that for showing your moral bankruptcy. You think penguins are a sign of incoherency, as if I'm too stupid to think of anything else, yet Trump is the one who imposed tariffs on the penguins."

              No, like your TDS, you are projecting.
              Tariffs include an entire country, even those portions which are not producing export goods and it would be ridiculous to exclude this province or that island. Only TDS-addled brain-dead shits like you find that hard to understand.
              Do you have it now, shit-for-brains?

        2. MT-Man   1 month ago

          the penguins part reminds of the media fixation with injecting bleach. feels like the same sort of truth wording, robert jordan-esqu aes sedai stuff. I think the good debates to be had keep getting lost because to the media that seems to be a big gotcha egg on the face moment that's really not.

          1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 month ago

            Virtue signaling. He's been told it's not about penguins. But he has no intellectual argument so he resorts to that.

            1. Stupid Government Tricks   1 month ago

              I wonder if you thought that was a coherent sentence. About as coherent as these tariffs, I guess.

              But as to the penguins, I love that for showing your moral bankruptcy. You think penguins are a sign of incoherency, as if I'm too stupid to think of anything else, yet Trump is the one who imposed tariffs on the penguins.

              Scared to death of saying Trump made a boo-boo. Morally bankrupt.

              1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   1 month ago

                OK, shithead, I can't get this into one-syllable words, but lets see if I can make simple enough that TDS-addled imbeciles like you can understand:

                "But as to the penguins, I love that for showing your moral bankruptcy. You think penguins are a sign of incoherency, as if I'm too stupid to think of anything else, yet Trump is the one who imposed tariffs on the penguins."

                No, like your TDS, you are projecting.
                Tariffs include an entire country, even those portions which are not producing export goods and it would be ridiculous to exclude this province or that island. Only TDS-addled brain-dead shits like you find that hard to understand.
                Do you have it now, shit-for-brains?

          2. Don't get eliminated(Lying Jeffy thinks about people having anal sex with their sisters)   1 month ago

            I appreciate the penguin mentions. It’s a quick and easy way to tell when someone’s being disingenuous and to be ignored.

            1. Stupid Government Tricks   1 month ago

              Yes, too bad we can't ignore Trump, who began the penguin meme by laying tariffs on them.

              1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   1 month ago

                OK, ass-wipe, I can't get this into one-syllable words, but lets see if I can make simple enough that TDS-addled imbeciles like you can understand:

                "But as to the penguins, I love that for showing your moral bankruptcy. You think penguins are a sign of incoherency, as if I'm too stupid to think of anything else, yet Trump is the one who imposed tariffs on the penguins."

                No, like your TDS, you are projecting.
                Tariffs include an entire country, even those portions which are not producing export goods and it would be ridiculous to exclude this province or that island. Only TDS-addled brain-dead shits like you find that hard to understand.
                Do you have it now, shit-for-brains?

      3. Quicktown Brix   1 month ago

        But this is what they think will collapse the economy.

        Ron Paul does.

      4. damikesc   1 month ago

        I'll side with Mr. Wonderful.

        The tariffs should be 400%. Make China beg. They violate every agreement they sign anyway.

        1. Stupid Government Tricks   1 month ago

          Like Trump violated 15 trade treaties, including the one he negotiated and signed himself? He must be a Chinese communist too.

          1. Truthfulness   1 month ago

            Name all 15 situations where this happened. Why hasn't the media gone bonkers on this, hmm?

  5. Sometimes a Great Notion   1 month ago

    "Who would have thought that Trump was actually the most high tax American President in generations,"

    Anyone who knew he is actually a Democrat? The pictures of him and Bill and Hillary at his wedding should have been a dead giveaway.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   1 month ago

      It also shows one how crazy and far left the Democrats have gotten since.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 month ago

        No way, dude. The "moderate left" was always fixated on socialism, gender freaks, open borders, reparations, legalizing crime, subsidizing hobos, and taking kids from their parents. It was the GOP that changed, when they all went full Nazi!

        1. Quicktown Brix   1 month ago

          Is this guy defending Hillary? These are strange times.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   1 month ago

            It’s sarcasm. Real, actual sarcasm.

            1. Quicktown Brix   1 month ago

              Yes it is. Sarcasm used to defend the Clintons. I'm not saying it's not valid, it's just odd for this place.

    2. Medulla Oblongata   1 month ago

      Billionaires have sure been put in their place recently, lost a few trillion dollars amongst them. AOC & Bernie and their anti-oligarchy tour should be praising the results!

      1. Fats of Fury   1 month ago

        If Sanders goes back to criticizing Bullionaires AND Mullionaires we'll know he lost big in the market.

  6. Fist of Etiquette   1 month ago

    The problem is, even an administration as dumb as this one can crash the economy.

    I'm sorry but they're the experts now. We have to listen to them.

  7. Fist of Etiquette   1 month ago

    The Federal Emergency Management Agency has terminated $188 million in grants to New York City to care for migrants, arguing that the money is being used to support illegal immigration...

    Also, WE CAN'T AFFORD IT.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   1 month ago

      Good. Send that FEMA money to North Carolina.

      1. Stupid Government Tricks   1 month ago

        How about just not take it in the first place? What is this fixation with Reason, where both writers and commenters forget that taxes are stolen, and instead only think of different things to do with them?

        1. Jefferson Paul   1 month ago

          It shows that libertarians and small-government conservatives are losing the battle, bigly.

          My favorite example is any Emma Camp article about FAFSA. I don't think I've seen one time where she prefaced the reporting on the backlog for FAFSA by saying there shouldn't be "federal student aid" to begin with.

  8. Fist of Etiquette   1 month ago

    Why was FEMA money given to my city in the first place? Why was it not used on American citizens?

    It's almost like there's no accountability.

    1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   1 month ago

      In government?
      Naw, top men. Just ask Jeffy.

      1. Randy Sax   1 month ago

        And in the senate, men's bottoms.

    2. Spiritus Mundi   1 month ago

      Look at Liz the nativist.

      1. Don't look at me! (No longer muted!)   1 month ago

        Xenophobia is cool again!

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 month ago

          But only in a New York kind of way.

    3. Fats of Fury   1 month ago

      That money could have been used to buy every illegal in NYS a one way ticket home.

  9. JFree   1 month ago

    Navarro's books contain repeated references to a man named Ron Vara

    A man, A MAGA anagram

  10. Sometimes a Great Notion   1 month ago

    "Our Founders were clear: tax policy should never rest in the hands of one person.

    You can't tear down their statues, but you can piss on their ideals, evidently.

  11. Fist of Etiquette   1 month ago

    ...but we have some really good stuff coming out on tariffs, deportations, and due process this week and next.

    This crowd might have had their fill of being talked to about those three topics.

    1. Fist of Etiquette   1 month ago

      The previous few I listened to, however, were pretty interesting.

  12. Overt   1 month ago

    "But consider too that it's a bit of a Potemkin administration, from the formula used to calculate the tariffs—touted as reciprocal but, in fact, based on trade deficits, seemingly generated by ChatGPT—to the sources cited by its top advisers (like Ron Vara)."

    I truly wonder where this Navarro guy thinks he is headed. This idiocy is costing the administration huge amounts of credibility.

    Even if you believe the claims that Trump is trying to negotiate "zero tariffs" with other countries, Navarro is undermining that strategy. He has made it clear that this isn't about leveling the playing field- he is purposely trying to tilt it so that no matter what, everything is made in the US. You cannot do that in a zero tariff environment. At some point SOMETHING will be cheaper/more efficient to be made elsewhere. And Navarro is clear that this is unacceptable.

    1. Homer Thompson   1 month ago

      I would imagine his schtick is very appealing to the UAW knuckle draggers

    2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 month ago

      The thing reason seems to be intentionally missing is that they never said it was solely about tariffs, but also included other manipulations like monetary devaluations.

      I don't agree with the method used, but doesn't mean they need to lie about it being exclusionary to tariff policy of other countries.

      1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 month ago

        Yes we know. The magic tariffs will fix all the problems.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   1 month ago

          You don’t seem to understand hardball negotiation well.

          1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   1 month ago

            He understands just fine, but he's paid to pretend otherwise.

        2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 month ago

          Don't you have sister rape to worry about?

          Tariffs have always existed. I find it ironic that it is your team continuing to demand tariffs stay instead of attempting to go to a zero tariffs system.

          The evil part of your beliefs is you want advantaged markets. You want asymmetrical tariffs to benefit foreigners. Instead of attempting to a set global tariffs to zero.

          1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   1 month ago

            "sister rape"

            Is this some new trunk bear/ejaculate on, not in, children argument from Jeff?

            1. Don't get eliminated(Lying Jeffy thinks about people having anal sex with their sisters)   1 month ago

              In Lying Jeffy’s defense, he didn’t actually use the word rape:

              chemjeff radical individualist 3 days ago
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              Mute User
              Do you fuck your sister in the ass?

              Don't get eliminated(Lying Jeffy is king of the liars) 3 days ago
              Really leaning into me calling you a psychopath I see.

              Edit
              chemjeff radical individualist 3 days ago
              Flag Comment
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              C'mon Troll Mac, why won't you answer?

              Do you fuck your sister in the ass?

              chemjeff radical individualist 3 days ago
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              Mute User
              See, the reason I'm asking is because I want to expose you as the sodomizing incestuous pervert that you really are. If you answer "yes" then clearly my assumptions about you are correct. But if you answer "no" then clearly you are the type who favors vaginal incest instead. Which is even worse because that means you might be making little incest babies with your sister.

              So what is your answer - do you fuck your sister in the ass?

              https://reason.com/2025/04/06/trump-is-wrong-about-mckinleys-tariff-legacy/?comments=true#comment-10991680

            2. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   1 month ago

              Start here: https://reason.com/2025/04/06/trump-is-wrong-about-mckinleys-tariff-legacy/?comments=true#comment-10991680

              chemjeff radical individualist 3 days ago
              Flag Comment
              Mute User
              Do you fuck your sister in the ass?

              It gets more bizarre as it goes on.

              1. damikesc   1 month ago

                Man, "dude" has lost it. Not sure chemjeff every really had it --- but he has certainly lost it hard.

              2. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   1 month ago

                This is how evil people like Jeff make up public justifications for killing people who disagree with them.

                1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 month ago

                  Gee I don't know, you are the one who calls me a Nazi on a daily basis. What is the proper punishment for a Nazi? Hmm? It's YOU and your tribe that invents reasons to oppress political opponents.

                  1. Uilleam   1 month ago

                    I usually call you a pedophile, which is accurate. I would settle for you in prison, which would be justified.

                  2. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   1 month ago

                    Because you ARE a Nazi. Stop being a Nazi and espousing evil and you won't get called one.
                    It's that easy.

                    In the meantime getting Team Chemjeff to stop shooting, bombing, maiming, running over, assaulting, arresting, vandalizing, swatting and physically threatening the unbelievers would make your protestations less dishonest.

                  3. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   1 month ago

                    Dude, you’ve gone so far off the rails with shit like the below, it isn’t even funny.

                    chemjeff radical individualist 3 days ago
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                    Mute User
                    See, the reason I'm asking is because I want to expose you as the sodomizing incestuous pervert that you really are. If you answer "yes" then clearly my assumptions about you are correct. But if you answer "no" then clearly you are the type who favors vaginal incest instead. Which is even worse because that means you might be making little incest babies with your sister.

                    So what is your answer - do you fuck your sister in the ass?

                    What exactly justifies this kind of insanity and discourse?

                    1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   1 month ago

                      It's projection.
                      Change "sister" to "dog" or "child" and give it a rainbow flag and you've got a Jeffy special.

                    2. chemjeff radical individualist   1 month ago

                      Yeah, no one believes your crocodile tears.

                    3. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   1 month ago

                      And fuck you too, Jeffy.

              3. chemjeff radical individualist   1 month ago

                Gee, it's so awful when someone is called a Nazi or a pedophile or a child molester, isn't it? Oh wait it isn't, because that is what you call me almost every day. So fuck off with your fake pearl clutching.

                1. Don't get eliminated(Lying Jeffy thinks about people having anal sex with their sisters)   1 month ago

                  Hey Lying Jeffy, do you think Trump will invoke some emergency statute that allows him to declare citizens to be enemies of the state and disappear them?

                2. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   1 month ago

                  Gee, it's so awful when someone is called a Nazi or a pedophile or a child molester, isn't it?

                  Sure is... when they aren't.

                  However you really are a Nazi, and endorse pedophile and child molester policies and behaviors, right here.

                  It's definitely smears when you do it to others, but legitimate observation when it's done to you.

                  1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 month ago

                    you really are a Nazi,

                    lie

                    and endorse pedophile and child molester policies and behaviors

                    lie. You just make shit up like you always do.

                    Now, what would you call a group of people who believes that they ought to have the power to round up a certain minority group for any reason whatsoever, strip them of their rights and their dignity, and send them off to a gulag? Would you call them fascists? I might call them fascists.

                    1. Marshal   1 month ago

                      But since that describes no one outside your fever dreams what do you think you've discovered?

                3. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   1 month ago

                  Jeffy, if the shit fits…

                  And it fits you all too well.

                  1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 month ago

                    lol see above. Of course you don't mind dishing out the insults.

                    1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   1 month ago

                      There are insults and then there’s what you did off the cuff. Should I try the same? So, Jeffy, have you stopped sodomizing your brother?

        3. Don't get eliminated(Lying Jeffy thinks about people having anal sex with their sisters)   1 month ago

          Hey Lying Jeffy, do you think Trump will invoke some emergency statute that allows him to declare citizens to be enemies of the state and disappear them?

      2. Stupid Government Tricks   1 month ago

        Yes, that's true. It has never been only about tariffs. It's also been about:

        * Onshoring manufacturing (in spite of being at an all time high).

        * Punishing foreigners for their lax labor, safety, and environmental regulations (which are unmeasurable and literally impossible to compare, which is what regulators and lawyers love most).

        * Forcing foreigners to stop the smuggling which we haven't been able to stop, because foreigners are so much better than Americans at the hard stuff.

        * He wants to reduce trade deficits, but he also wants to grow foreign investment, even though they are the same things, and oh by the way, have nothing to do with tariffs by either name

        * He wants tariffs to replace the income tax, never mind that the tariffs he has implemented will block so much imports that there won't be enough revenue.

        And penguins! Never forget the penguins!

        The funny thing is how zero tariffs make all those other goals impossible. Trumpenomics is magic!

        1. McCult   1 month ago

          The constant cycling through different, and often completely contradictory, reasons has been the most embarrassing thing about this. Never mind the actual debate over whether the tariffs would achieve the stated aims; they can’t even agree what those aims are, because they’re beholden to the God King’s logic, which changes on a whim.

          P.S. I love being told by libertarians what I should and shouldn’t be allowed to buy. MAGA socialist bullshit.

          1. Stupid Government Tricks   1 month ago

            And yet, when anyone points this out, the only response is to change the subject. Mention the 2026 midterms coming up, what long memories voters have for these "temporary" financial shocks, and that it would only take a 0.8% shift in the vote for Democrats to take back both houses and impeach Trump for real treaty violations, and they claim 2024 was a landslide.

            Heads in the sand. It's almost like the only thing which matters is defending Trump instead of trying to fix the wrongs laid by the wokies.

            1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   1 month ago

              "And yet, when anyone points this out, the only response is to change the subject."

              This isn't true.

              And tariffs can have a lot of reasons behind them, applicable to different countries, and different industries. The idea that they have only one is just weird.

              1. Stupid Government Tricks   1 month ago

                You have ignored the conflicting reasons. That alone shows incoherence. And Jesse still refuses to address the basic incompetence in thinking he can lower the trade deficit while raising foreign investment, when they are the same thing.

                1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   1 month ago

                  "You have ignored the conflicting reasons."

                  No I haven't.

                  Those reasons aren't conflicting. They might be if there was only one country being tariffed. But there isn't. There's what, one hundred?

                  It would be far more sus if there was just one reason for all.

              2. Don't get eliminated(Lying Jeffy thinks about people having anal sex with their sisters)   1 month ago

                Oh yeah?

                PENGUINS!!!!

                So there.

                1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   1 month ago

                  All I can think of with penguins are the scenes in Billy Madison.

                  It's too damn hot for a penguin to be walking around here.

      3. Overt   1 month ago

        "I don't agree with the method used, but doesn't mean they need to lie about it being exclusionary to tariff policy of other countries."

        I think you are giving these people too much credit. Navarro is clear that he wants a world where EVERYTHING Americans consume is produced in the US. Period. That's why he is shitting on Elon Musk and the BMW plant.

        The "Hey we are just looking for no manipulations" schtick is a smoke screen. The US engages in all sorts of manipulations- from corn subsidies to massive federal contracts that prop up certain industries. It is an impossible standard to meet, and of course that is the point. Navarro clearly just wants to stop international trade, and he can use any "help" provided by a foreign government to justify twisting the screws.

        1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 month ago

          Navarro is one person taking part of thr conversation. And not the one with the power or decision making authority.

          I've praised Bessent, not Navarro.

          1. Nelson   1 month ago

            Why would you praise Bessent? He is as clueless as Navarro. As has been pointed out (repeatedly), some of the things (like trade deficits) that Trump wants to “fix” can’t be changed with tariffs. Some things they have claimed as goals are mutually exclusive. You can’t have a strategy to get to zero tariffs and also try to raise revenue or “bring back” manufacturing.

            Getting to zero tariffs takes short term high tariffs that go to zero when the other country does it (although Israel did this and still got hammered).

            Raising revenue takes a small and permanent tariff. Small enough that trade isn’t affected, but large enough to provide decent revenue. It is a very narrow sweet spot, but if the goal is a lot of revenue (say, to replace income tax) it is impossible. The tariff rate necessary to generate that much revenue would be so high it would be the same as …

            Making manufacturing financially competitive. This would require a large, permanent tariff. The minute the tariff was reduced or eliminated, production would go back to the countries that provide high quality and low labor costs.

            So which is it? High temporary tariffs that go to zero (jobs remain overseas, prices drop, the US gets no revenue), low permanent tariffs (jobs remain overseas, prices remain the same, the US gets moderate revenue), or high permanent tariffs (jobs return to the US, prices skyrocket, the US gets some revenue that slowly decreases as imports decrease, recession likely). You can only get one of the three. So which is it?

            1. Truthfulness   3 weeks ago

              Tariffs can help reduce the deficit and encourage local production.

              You don't know squat about how the economy works.

  13. Sometimes a Great Notion   1 month ago

    (Our episode with him comes out later today.)

    Damn lazy kids today.

  14. Fist of Etiquette   1 month ago

    The Trump administration is calling on migrants who entered the country under the Biden administration, and received parole protections via the CBP One app, to self-deport.

    Tell them they're facing a winter of death or some shit.

  15. Sometimes a Great Notion   1 month ago

    In total, that's a 104 percent tariff on Chinese goods. And China retaliated with 84 percent tariffs of its own.

    Well, we'll double it again and put them on double secret probation!

    1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   1 month ago

      "And China retaliated with 84 percent tariffs of its own."

      Bringing the total Chinese tariff up to 184%

      1. Spiritus Mundi   1 month ago

        Needs more boosters.

        1. VinniUSMC   1 month ago

          Do the penguins need boosters? Asking for a friend.

  16. Fist of Etiquette   1 month ago

    Our Founders were clear: tax policy should never rest in the hands of one person.

    It's currently resting in the hands of multiple world leaders. It's a kind of globalism.

    1. Dillinger   1 month ago

      there can be only Vara and Kimbal.

  17. Idaho-Bob   1 month ago

    RE: Experts - I'm old enough to remember product advertisements claiming government experts (or studies) showed a product was safer, better, healthier, or whatever.

    Personally, I wouldn't purchase anything that touted a government endorsement. In fact, every time I see a product that says "known to cause cancer in the state of California" or "not for sale in California" I will lean towards purchasing that product.

    My brand-new expensive Honda generator says, "Not for sale in California" and "49 state compliant". Because of "experts".

    1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   1 month ago

      I sort of do the same thing when I see "vegan leather" and "vegan friendly". It's a little silly and probably unfair, but I won't buy a product with those stupid labels.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   1 month ago

        Isn’t “vegan leather” just vinyl by another name?

        1. Don't look at me! (No longer muted!)   1 month ago

          Yes, but vinyl is so 1970’s.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 month ago

            That would be high-quality vinyl made from petroleum. This new-age vinyl made from bugs and corn stalks ain't worth shit.

            1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   1 month ago

              Dead dinosaurs will never be vegan

      2. Stupid Government Tricks   1 month ago

        Or "organic" which looks more like an excuse for higher prices.

    2. Zeb   1 month ago

      In fact, every time I see a product that says "known to cause cancer in the state of California" or "not for sale in California" I will lean towards purchasing that product.

      Are there any products on the market that don't cause cancer in California?

      1. Longtobefree   1 month ago

        Yard signs for democrats.
        That's it.

        1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 month ago

          Ahem. Covid vaccines.

          1. Don't look at me! (No longer muted!)   1 month ago

            And wildfires.

            1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 month ago

              Rebuilding from the fires does cause cancer though.

              1. Medulla Oblongata   1 month ago

                That's why no one is allowed to do it.

                1. Don't look at me! (No longer muted!)   1 month ago

                  It’s for your own good!

      2. Sometimes a Great Notion   1 month ago

        Coffee, but they were working on fixing that.

      3. Randy Sax   1 month ago

        They plan to rocket up to the sun just to put a warning label on it.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   1 month ago

          The flaw in the plan: rockets are also known to cause cancer in California.

          1. Zeb   1 month ago

            And it's really hard to get to the sun.

            1. But SkyNet is a Private Company   1 month ago

              They should go there on the winter, when it’s a bit cooler

              1. Don't get eliminated(Lying Jeffy thinks about people having anal sex with their sisters)   1 month ago

                I heard they’re going to have a train that will take them there in the next few years. Very fast.

  18. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   1 month ago

    Meanwhile, in libertarian news:

    Acting ATF Director Kash Patel Announces an End to the Agency’s Abusive ‘Zero Tolerance’ FFL Inspection Program

    1. Don't look at me! (No longer muted!)   1 month ago

      It won’t last if Congress isn’t involved.

      1. Don't get eliminated(Lying Jeffy thinks about people having anal sex with their sisters)   1 month ago

        Therefore it’s bad. Also it’s bad he didn’t go farther.

    2. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   1 month ago

      And not a word of it in the supposedly top libertarian publication called Reason. Must be too local.

      1. Stupid Government Tricks   1 month ago

        The ATF was absent from the December(?) issue of government departments to abolish.

        1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   1 month ago

          Yes, but that was only when it didn't seem like it would actually happen. Our favorite Reasonistas are brave like that.

    3. Idaho-Bob   1 month ago

      I recently purchased a new handgun from an FFL. The entire 4473 process was digital on a tablet. I made a check box mistake, and the software flagged the mistake. I was given the opportunity to make a correction and not cancel the sale.

      It's been awhile since I bought anything from an FFL, but it seems to me that the digital transaction would eliminate the errors and the need for audits. Downside is the fedbois now have a digital record of your purchase. No matter what the law says.

      1. Randy Sax   1 month ago

        My buddy is a Sheriff's deputy and straw purchase rules generally don't apply to him. *wink wink*

  19. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   1 month ago

    Rutgers University: Assassination Culture:
    How Burning Teslas and Killing Billionaires Became a Meme Aesthetic for Political Violence

    Leftists are very psychologically OK with violence against their political opposition...with most "left of center" people saying they'd find the outright murder of @realDonaldTrump justified.

    They do this because they think it works.

    Democrats routinely call for street violence and refuse to condemn it when it happens because they know it’s effective. Weak losers like Mitt Romney and Amy Barrett get eaten alive by these tactics.

    The failed assassination of Kavanaugh wasn’t a failure. It was a huge success.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 month ago

      FAFO harder!

    2. Randy Sax   1 month ago

      These people think they are Che Guevara.

    3. Idaho-Bob   1 month ago

      If the gov't wasn't so enthusiastic about prosecuting people for killing leftist protesters, we would not have these issues. They have very little risk of being ended when burning, looting, and beating. If citizens could simply gun down a creature holding a lit Molotov, the shit would stop.

    4. damikesc   1 month ago

      Bluesky is a breeding ground for this.

  20. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   1 month ago

    Fuck off, Nike
    Women living under Islam are being beaten, imprisoned & even killed for defying hijab laws. And, you're here promoting hijabs...and the subjugation of women.

    There's quite a few muslim countries where women don't have to wear a hijab at all, so Nike's promotion of it is particularly egregious.
    I imagine that if religious Catholic women in the West were pressed to wear a wimple, the stunning and brave Nike marketers would run an ad of a woman ripping it off and casting it away, because they're brave like that.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 month ago

      How about in England?

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   1 month ago

        I thought that was now the Islamic Caliphate of Londonistan.

  21. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   1 month ago

    This British woman should not be in jail
    The shocking case of Lucy Connolly --and what it tells us about the free speech crisis

    Despite having never physically touched, abused, or hurt a single person, despite having never started a fire or thrown anything at a hotel housing asylum-seekers, Lucy Connolly, because of that tweet, was jailed for nearly three years. She was denied bail. She was urged to plead guilty. And she was sent to jail.
    And now, despite becoming eligible for temporary release last November, which would have allowed this mother to at least spend some time with her 12-year-old daughter and sick husband, prison bosses are refusing to grant this temporary leave.

    1. Don't look at me! (No longer muted!)   1 month ago

      Words and ideas are dangerous.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 month ago

        Your words are violence. Their violence is words.

        Get it?

    2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 month ago

      It's her fault for not being an immigrant rapist.

      Even Rachel Dozeal figured out how to thrive in the British legal system.

    3. chemjeff radical individualist   1 month ago

      Now do Garcia.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   1 month ago

        There’s a difference between making threats and simply exercising opinions.

      2. Idaho-Bob   1 month ago

        You mean the guy who trespassed his way here?

        1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 month ago

          I mean the guy whom the government even admitted was deported in error. Do you think the government violated Garcia's rights?

          1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 month ago

            He was given final deportation orders. He stayed despite the order.

            The error was a judge saying he couldn't be deported to el Salvador. He had zero right to remain in the US.

            You are intentionally lying about the facts like usual.

            1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 month ago

              Even the government admits they screwed up, but Jesse the True Believer still won't admit it.

            2. chemjeff radical individualist   1 month ago

              The error was a judge saying he couldn't be deported to el Salvador.

              I see. So judges who follow the law are in error because they don't follow the law in the way YOU think it ought to be followed.

              Yet one more data point that your tribe's bleating about "rule of law" is a farce. You don't want rule of law, you want rule of men, as long as they are the Top Men that you approve of.

              1. Jefferson Paul   1 month ago

                You've already admitted that you don't give a shit about the rule of law when you said if the immigration law is bad or unjust, in your opinion, then it's fine to break the law.

          2. Medulla Oblongata   1 month ago

            He was deported to the wrong country in error. His removal from the US was fine, but he was not supposed to be sent to El Salvador...had he been removed to literally any place else would have been consistent with his duly authorized, due-processed, judge-issued removal order.

            1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 month ago

              Did the government violate Garcia's rights?

              1. Idaho-Bob   1 month ago

                Is Garcia a US citizen?

                1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 month ago

                  Do only citizens have rights?

          3. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   1 month ago

            "I mean the guy whom the government even admitted was deported in error."

            This is a lie, and you know it is a lie. We're not boomers on Facebook, you retard. You can't pull this here.

            1. damikesc   1 month ago

              Don't assume that chemjeff knows ANYTHING.

            2. chemjeff radical individualist   1 month ago

              I love it when you call me a liar, immediately after another commenter admits I'm right.

              He was deported to the wrong country in error.

              This is one more reason why you are a gaslighting shill.

              1. Don't get eliminated(Lying Jeffy thinks about people having anal sex with their sisters)   1 month ago

                Good job steering this conversation away from the silly culture war issue of Europeans being thrown in prison for speech.

                1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   1 month ago

                  Lying Jeffy is great at derailing conversations.

              2. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   1 month ago

                He didn't "aDmiTS I'M riGhT", retard.

                You lied that the "government even admitted was deported in error".

                THEY DID NOT DEPORT HIM IN ERROR.

                Nor did Jesse say that. Jesse clearly said his destination was in error, not the deportation, you incompetent sophist.

                I will never understand how you think entire previous posts somehow magically disappear when you want to lie about it, and nobody can check up on you..

                1. Don't get eliminated(Lying Jeffy thinks about people having anal sex with their sisters)   1 month ago

                  He’s a psychopath.

                  1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   1 month ago

                    Very true. Too see more of why, see his screed above that I reposted about his interest in incest.

                2. chemjeff radical individualist   1 month ago

                  Oh here we go. Now you are going to try to weasel your way into trying to defend the indefensible.

                  Jesse clearly said his destination was in error, not the deportation

                  The destination was a part of the entire deportation process. That was the error. Thanks for admitting it. Oh and I wasn't referring to Jesse as "previous commenter".

              3. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   1 month ago

                You’re one to talk about being a gaslighting shill, Mr. Incest.

          4. Social Justice is neither   1 month ago

            Should have just shot him in the head for trespassing, right? Or does that only apply to Americans?

      3. Uilleam   1 month ago

        You are absolute garbage.

      4. Don't get eliminated(Lying Jeffy thinks about people having anal sex with their sisters)   1 month ago

        Lying Jeffy thinks we should ignore these stories out of Europe because they’re just culture war issues.

  22. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   1 month ago

    BREAKING: The acting head of the IRS plans to quit over the deal ICE has made with the IRS where the IRS will share migrants’ tax information with ICE, to help find immigrants they are trying to deport, per Washington Post

    This guy didn’t resign when IRS employees leaked the sensitive tax information of 405,000 citizens to ProPublica, but draws the line at another government agency's legitimate law enforcement request for information on non-citizens.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   1 month ago

      Oh well, I guess she shouldn’t let the door hit her on the ass on the way out.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 month ago

        It would be better if that door led to a deep, dark pit.

  23. Spiritus Mundi   1 month ago

    Don't Trust the Experts. Make Them Up!

    See also the strawcastic method.

    1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   1 month ago

      Just this morning sarcasmic was repeating the three Trump tariff excuses he invented (or more likely was told by MSNBC).

  24. Fist of Etiquette   1 month ago

    It's time Congress reasserts its authority and restores the balance of power," said Paul.

    Once you willingly cede power, it's very difficult to retrieve it. Also, what senator wants to add to his voting record on taxes?

    1. Stupid Government Tricks   1 month ago

      No President would ever sign that bill. It's a one way transfer of power. But that's all government. The Constitution was a mighty fine first draft, especially considering the times, but they still made sure power remained with the elites.

  25. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 month ago

    Another demerit for the credentialed class and experts as Mississippi goes back to phonics and now has the highest adjusted reading scores. They also hold students accountable and hold them back. No reformative grading.

    @panickssery
    Mississippi has the best demographic-adjusted NAEP (4th & 8th grade) scores now

    The "Mississippi Miracle" started in 2012 when the Republican governor/legislature introduced phonics-based instruction and began to hold back ~10% of 3rd graders per year who fail a reading test

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   1 month ago

      But..but..but..that’s raciss!

      1. rbike   1 month ago

        I remember my phonics book in grade school. Private Catholic school in the early 70's. I am very literate and well read in my opinion.

  26. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 month ago

    A Canadian task force has found Carney is being promoted by China.

    https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2025/04/08/canada-discovers-chinese-election-propaganda-promoting-leftist-pm-mark-carney/

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   1 month ago

      Colour me unsurprised.

      1. Medulla Oblongata   1 month ago

        I see what you did there.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 month ago

      Wait--is foreign government interference good or bad now?

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 month ago

        It (D)epends.

  27. sarcasmic   1 month ago

    Remember folks, a general increase in prices caused by tariffs isn't inflation. No, a general increase in prices is only inflation if a Democrat is president.

    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 month ago

      Can you show us the data on this general increase? Because it seems specific to the 11% of purchases that encompass imports, not a generalized increase.

      Also didn't you used to understand inflation was driven by monetary policy? Do you not believe supplier switching is a thing? Are you like China and don't believe American industry exists?

    2. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   1 month ago

      Another shitty troll attempt? Your false equivalency is noted.

    3. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 month ago

      Remember folks, there's no actual correlation between inflation rates and tariff rates over this country's history, which is easy enough to find with a simple internet search on the data.

      1. sarcasmic   1 month ago

        Great comeback to something no one ever said.

        One question: are you throwing the word "rates" in there because you don't get that tariffs are a one-time increase in prices, not an ongoing increase, or because you understand and are being intentionally dishonest?

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   1 month ago

          Again, where’s the correlation, Sarc. Back it up with evidence.

        2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 month ago

          Dammit. Sarc doesn't have me on mute. Copied what I posted above.

          You've been calling this inflation for 2 weeks lol.

          1. Don't look at me! (No longer muted!)   1 month ago

            How could he mute you after your promotion?

          2. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   1 month ago

            Imagine if Sarc actually muted you. Where would he find reasons to indulge in self-pity then?

            1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   1 month ago

              Sarc couldn’t indulge in his favorite pastime here if he muted Jesse. He loves to indulge his Jesse Derangement Syndrome.

      2. Quicktown Brix   1 month ago

        You're about to get schooled. You'll have your data point soon.

        Of course tariffs cause inflationary pressure. If they didn't raise prices, they would not work as a protectionist technique.

        Inflation is caused by many factors, so just looking a the rate of inflation vs. the tariff rate can easily result in a false negative. Prior to this, tariffs were enacted piecemeal or strategically. We've never been "liberated" like this before.

        1. sarcasmic   1 month ago

          Prior to this, tariffs were enacted piecemeal or strategically. We've never been "liberated" like this before.

          That's the part that Trump defenders either do not understand, or do and are lying about it.

          1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 month ago

            Neither of you understand other countries are negotiating tariffs down. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

            1. Quicktown Brix   1 month ago

              0% reciprocal tariff offers are getting rejected.

              1. Don't get eliminated(Lying Jeffy thinks about people having anal sex with their sisters)   1 month ago

                Oops.

                1. Quicktown Brix   1 month ago

                  Oops indeed.

                  We still have 10% universal tariffs, higher for steel, aluminum and autos, essentialy an embargo on China, 90 days of uncertainty and have not yet gained anything.

          2. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 month ago

            Bullshit. Tariffs were how the government paid its bills for decades. You can't even get that basic fact correct.

            1. Quicktown Brix   1 month ago

              So what? Import/export was pretty slow in the 1780's relative to today.

              How much of George Washington's household items, food etc. were imported vs. how many for us? If tariffs were there from the beginning, inflationary pressures wouldn't be noticed as imports slowly increased.

              If we want to go back to log cabins, horse and buggies, plowing fields with oxen, subsistence farming, with no phones, computers, TV's, internet, hospitals, drugs or medical devices, this plan would probably work.

              1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 month ago

                Translation: "I can't rebut your factual statement, so I'm going to barf out a bunch of rhetorical smoke."

                1. Quicktown Brix   1 month ago

                  That's just dishonest

                  1. Don't get eliminated(Lying Jeffy thinks about people having anal sex with their sisters)   1 month ago

                    You said: “Prior to this, tariffs were enacted piecemeal or strategically.”

                    That statement is false, regardless of where George Washington’s chair came from.

                    1. Quicktown Brix   1 month ago

                      A 5% import tariff was implemented in 1789 and rates stayed between about 5 and 10% until the protectionist era around the 1820s. Federal revenues were about 2% of GDP in 1800 and tariffs were only part of that revenue.

                      In the protectionist era tariffs were added piecemeal and strategically.

                      So what's false?

                    2. Don't get eliminated(Lying Jeffy thinks about people having anal sex with their sisters)   1 month ago

                      5-10% is not piecemeal or strategic.

                    3. Quicktown Brix   1 month ago

                      It was implemented from the start of the Union making it useless for a before/after inflation comparison, which was the point of this claim.

        2. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 month ago

          You're about to get schooled. You'll have your data point soon.

          Hardly, Mike. I'm going to go with the one thing that's never happened in the country's history over your wishcasting.

          Of course tariffs cause inflationary pressure.

          Is that why it's never happened in the nation's history?

          Inflation is caused by many factors,

          IOW, this chicken little bullshit from you can be safely ignored.

          Prior to this, tariffs were enacted piecemeal or strategically. We've never been "liberated" like this before.

          Bullshit. Tariffs were how the government paid its bills for decades. You can't even get that basic fact correct.

          1. Quicktown Brix   1 month ago

            You should take some education from Ron Paul and Dave Smith because these democrats are lying to you about their planned economy.

            I highly suggest listening to Dave's take as he does a basic economics lesson that would challenge your ideas, if that's something you can handle.

            1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 month ago

              You should shove our "take some education" up your ass, then have someone stick a loaded shotgun up there and pull the trigger.

              I don't give two shits about your appeal to authority, because the data is on my side and not yours.

              1. Quicktown Brix   1 month ago

                I'm not going to take your shotgun suggestion because that's almost as foolish as thinking tariffs will help the economy...almost...

                It's not an appeal to authority when I say you should listen to this. I didn't say it's true because they say it. I just suggested you listen. But since you're Dunning Kruger confident and comfortable in your confirmation bias, I suppose there's no point.

                And if you think the data is on your side because you cherry picked one flawed data set, that's sadly pathetic. Challenge yourself. Read some articles on tariffs. Listen to Dave Smith explain it. The data is not on your side!

                1. Don't get eliminated(Lying Jeffy thinks about people having anal sex with their sisters)   1 month ago

                  “I'm not going to take your shotgun suggestion”

                  Darn.

                  1. Quicktown Brix   1 month ago

                    You're free to mute me.

                2. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 month ago

                  It's not an appeal to authority when I say you should listen to this. I didn't say it's true because they say it. I just suggested you listen.

                  Distinction without a difference.

                  And if you think the data is on your side because you cherry picked one flawed data set

                  LOL, that "flawed data set" is the entirety of the nation's history, Mike.

                  The data is not on your side!

                  Yeah, it is.

          2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 month ago

            It is funny how Mike is doing exactly what I mentioned above and even sarc realized was a mistake: confusing inflation with a price shock.

            1. Quicktown Brix   1 month ago

              Even economists conflate the 2 when speaking to lay people. People don't hate inflation because they just don't like the money supply being so damn big. They hate it because they can't afford stuff.

              So while your purchasing power evaporates, take comfort knowing technically it's not inflation causing the decline in your quality of life.

    4. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 month ago

      Weak. Sober up and try again.

    5. Don't get eliminated(Lying Jeffy thinks about people having anal sex with their sisters)   1 month ago

      Poor sarcbot, so ignorant.

  28. Overt   1 month ago

    From elsewhere:

    " Sources close to the Trump White House say they are pressing on with their tariff plan based on this calculation: That the tumult in on Wall Street in stock market, while significant, will not be matched by a similar tumult in the Main Street economy."

    This is the problem with Team Politics. There are plenty of people on the right who know that this is just crazy-talk, and they are afraid to speak out because they feel compelled to circle the wagons for Trump. But this Navarro guy is completely out of control, and someone needs to rein him in to a coherent strategy- not some fantasy of Fortress America making everything it ever needed.

    Rumors are that Vance and Musk among others are behind the scenes pushing Trump to change his tactics, but until he knocks Navarro down a peg or two, that guy is going to continue driving this trade policy off a cliff.

    1. JFree   1 month ago

      Trump is interested in loyalty.

      Musk, techbros, Wall St pushing Trump to change are not loyal

      The blue collar Rust Belt folks are totally ok with Wall St, Musk, and techbros going through decades of pain, if necessary, without fentanyl, to reindustrialize.

      Those blue collar folks are loyal to Trump and will remain so even if Trump shoots Musk on Fifth Avenue.

      Elections have consequences.

      1. JFree   1 month ago

        I take that back. Trump just betrayed that group of blue collar Rust Belt folks who want reindustrialization. My guess is that that will have consequences.

    2. Stupid Government Tricks   1 month ago

      Not to harp on the penguins again too much, I really don't want Jesse to wear out his fingers typing *crickets*, but the sheer incoherence of these tariffs is the real lasting damage. Before this, it was all lawfare and policy disagreements. But now he's shown the most basic incompetence, and not just with taxing penguins. He's got tariffs on islands which are part of other countries with their own tariffs, his tariffs violate 15 already-negotiated trade treaties which makes one wonder why he thinks anyone would trust him to honor new trade treaties, and one of them was the USMCA which he himself negotiated just 5 years ago and bragged on.

      Lawfare and policy differences are one thing, and most people can recognize them for that. Even changing tariffs at the last minute, postponing them, that can be excused as part of his negotiating tactics, his Art of the Deal. But this level of slapdash is an entirely different ballpark that is impossible to wish away as negotiating tactics.

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   1 month ago

        PENGUINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        1. Stupid Government Tricks   1 month ago

          TRUMP DID IT FIRST SO IT'S OK!

          1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   1 month ago

            OK, fuck-face, I can't get this into one-syllable words, but lets see if I can make simple enough that TDS-addled imbeciles like you can understand:

            "But as to the penguins, I love that for showing your moral bankruptcy. You think penguins are a sign of incoherency, as if I'm too stupid to think of anything else, yet Trump is the one who imposed tariffs on the penguins."

            No, like your TDS, you are projecting.
            Tariffs include an entire country, even those portions which are not producing export goods and it would be ridiculous to exclude this province or that island. Only TDS-addled brain-dead shits like you find that hard to understand.
            Do you have it now, shit-for-brains?

      2. Don't look at me! (No longer muted!)   1 month ago

        It’s all so confusing!

      3. EISTAU Gree-Vance   1 month ago

        “Not to harp on….”

        Lol. Too late. Like way, way too late.

  29. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 month ago

    I'm sure this is an assault on the constitution somehow, but Trump to use a 1996 law to charge illegals who overstay their final deportation orders 998 a day.

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2025/04/dhs-to-fine-illegal-aliens-998-a-day-who-defy-deportation-orders/

    1. Medulla Oblongata   1 month ago

      One of the phrases I found odd in Jackson dissent on the Venezuelan issue was this "The President of the United States has invoked a centuries-old wartime statute "

      First, it's not a "wartime" statute, but it's a statute that has a war-time component. Second, I wasn't aware that only newer laws were supposed to be followed. The 1st amendment is centuries-old, too, you non-biologist-can't-tell-women-from-men hag.

    2. Medulla Oblongata   1 month ago

      Not sure how they $998, but $500 is certainly in the statute.

      §1324d. Civil penalties for failure to depart
      (a) In general
      Any alien subject to a final order of removal who-

      (1) willfully fails or refuses to-
      (A) depart from the United States pursuant to the order,
      (B) make timely application in good faith for travel or other documents necessary for departure, or
      (C) present for removal at the time and place required by the Attorney General; or

      (2) conspires to or takes any action designed to prevent or hamper the alien's departure pursuant to the order,

      shall pay a civil penalty of not more than $500 to the Commissioner for each day the alien is in violation of this section.

      1. Stupid Government Tricks   1 month ago

        Maybe that's inflation adjusted.

    3. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   1 month ago

      Just wait, Judge Boasberg will rule on it.

      1. Spiritus Mundi   1 month ago

        Mar-a-lago is only worth $998.

      2. damikesc   1 month ago

        I love that he is STILL trying to hit DOJ lawyers with contempt.

        "Yes, we have utter contempt for you, you moronic sack of shit"

    4. Medulla Oblongata   1 month ago

      There's a related statute

      8 USC 1253: Penalties related to removal

      (b) Willful failure to comply with terms of release under supervision
      An alien who shall willfully fail to comply with regulations or requirements issued pursuant to section 1231(a)(3) of this title or knowingly give false information in response to an inquiry under such section shall be fined not more than $1,000 or imprisoned for not more than one year, or both.

      1. Don't get eliminated(Lying Jeffy thinks about people having anal sex with their sisters)   1 month ago

        Interesting. So what about the NGOs that coach them to lie?

        1. Medulla Oblongata   1 month ago

          If it was me, I'd invoke 8 U.S. Code § 1324 - Bringing in and harboring certain aliens on them.

          (A)Any person who—

          (i)knowing that a person is an alien, brings to or attempts to bring to the United States in any manner whatsoever such person at a place other than a designated port of entry or place other than as designated by the Commissioner, regardless of whether such alien has received prior official authorization to come to, enter, or reside in the United States and regardless of any future official action which may be taken with respect to such alien;

          (ii)knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, transports, or moves or attempts to transport or move such alien within the United States by means of transportation or otherwise, in furtherance of such violation of law;

          (iii)knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, conceals, harbors, or shields from detection, or attempts to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection, such alien in any place, including any building or any means of transportation;

          (iv)encourages or induces an alien to come to, enter, or reside in the United States, knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such coming to, entry, or residence is or will be in violation of law; or

          ...

          shall be punished as provided in subparagraph (B).

          (B)A person who violates subparagraph (A) shall, for each alien in respect to whom such a violation occurs—
          (i)in the case of a violation of subparagraph (A)(i) or (v)(I) or in the case of a violation of subparagraph (A)(ii), (iii), or (iv) in which the offense was done for the purpose of commercial advantage or private financial gain, be fined under title 18, imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both;
          (ii)in the case of a violation of subparagraph (A)(ii), (iii), (iv), or (v)(II), be fined under title 18, imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both;
          (iii)in the case of a violation of subparagraph (A)(i), (ii), (iii), (iv), or (v) during and in relation to which the person causes serious bodily injury (as defined in section 1365 of title 18) to, or places in jeopardy the life of, any person, be fined under title 18, imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both; and
          (iv)in the case of a violation of subparagraph (A)(i), (ii), (iii), (iv), or (v) resulting in the death of any person, be punished by death or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, fined under title 18, or both.

          1. Don't get eliminated(Lying Jeffy thinks about people having anal sex with their sisters)   1 month ago

            Thanks. Looks like they can go after others as well.

  30. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 month ago

    Crockett is the gift that keeps on giving. Claims we need illegals to be the new slaves.

    “I had to go around the country and educate people about what immigrants do for this country, or the fact that we are a country of immigrants,” Crockett said in the video shared by Rugg. “The fact is, ain’t none of y’all trying to go and farm right now………we done picking cotton. We are. You can’t pay us enough to find a plantation.”

    1. Zeb   1 month ago

      Slaves who come voluntarily and get paid. I'm not saying it's an ideal situation, or that she's not a fucking idiot, but that's not what slavery is.

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 month ago

        Let me find out your line.

        Is worker exploitation fine to the point of slavery, or is it a bit further? Are you also fine with government subsidy of employees?

        Because that's largely what democrats are arguing for.

        1. Zeb   1 month ago

          I'm not saying anything is fine, or that everything short of slavery is acceptable. Relying on illegal labor is a bad situation and ripe for exploitation of the workers. But slavery has a pretty specific meaning that I think it worth preserving.

          1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 month ago

            I have a wider bounds than you as I also think indentured servitude was a form of slavery, especially through manipulations of the contracts.

            Much of modern day slavery is based around exploitation of these style contracts.

            The cartels use this extensively for sex workers and exploitation for drug production. Never allowing migrants "loaned" money to escape. Workers who can never buy out of their contracts.

            1. Zeb   1 month ago

              I don't really doubt that there are situations, especially in less legal types of employment such as you mention, that could fairly be described as slavery or something damn close. I just object to the generalization to illegal immigrant labor in general.

            2. chemjeff radical individualist   1 month ago

              How about 'wage slavery'? Is that a type of slavery according to Jesse? There's a lot of BernieBros who would agree with you.

              1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 month ago

                Um, sure. Any society that does not provide for all the needs and wants of people, regardless of how much they want to "work", is a slave state.

                1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 month ago

                  Ask Jesse. He is the one after all who has an 'expanded' view of slavery.

                  1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 month ago

                    I made my point clearly. What did you struggle with?

                    1. Don't look at me! (No longer muted!)   1 month ago

                      He struggles with reality.

              2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 month ago

                Please define wage slavery Jeff.

                Citizens aren't under threat for marketing for new jobs. Illegals or those on work visas actually are.

                Is everything you say completely dishonest?

        2. chemjeff radical individualist   1 month ago

          Concerns about "worker exploitation" is what got us the minimum wage and a bunch of those other regulations that you now complain about.

          You are the one who bitches that no one talks about the cost of the regulatory burden. And now here you are justifying that same burden with your fake concern for "worker exploitation".

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   1 month ago

            There’s a big difference between low wages (which, admittedly are shitty) and contracts that force a worker to work for you with no way out of that contract. The latter is a form of slavery and is what’s going on here.

            1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 month ago

              At this point I really question if Jeff has the reading comprehension of even a 3rd grade Mississippi student.

              Imagine being so dishonest as trying to equate wages with indentured servitude.

            2. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   1 month ago

              "The latter is a form of slavery and is what’s going on here."

              Jeff knows. That's been the Democratic party's goal since the civil war ended.

          2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 month ago

            And lying jeffy is intentionally misreading what is clearly written above.

    2. Medulla Oblongata   1 month ago

      Dang, I had that queued up as one of mine today.

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 month ago

        Apologies. She's just the gift they keeps on giving.

        The crowd giving her zero reaction was hilarious.

      2. chemjeff radical individualist   1 month ago

        Weird how you all read from the same script of talking points.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   1 month ago

          Projecting again, Jeffy?

        2. Medulla Oblongata   1 month ago

          I've no idea where anyone else gets their content. I can say that I tend to get mine from a smallish set of sources that I hit pretty much daily: WSJ, slashdot, glibertarians, spiked.com, thehill.com, CNN.com, and of course Reason.com. I also get links from several emails that I receive pretty much daily: Townhall.com, HuffPost.com, Daily_KOS.com...those last two I can most often just take the link and reverse the claims (anything they're lauding is probably worth noting as it's probably bad). And then there's the "random" stuff that shows up on my twitter feed (I lurk there only, probably fewer than 10 tweets per year), where the algorithm is mostly churned by my desire to see the original tweets when referenced.

          I usually prefer to try to go upstream to the original sources cited in any of the above to get the non-spin version. I try to provide links and direct quotes to make the source clear as well as to pre-empt "cite please?!".

          At no point do I get a talking-points memo or anything of the sort.

          Believe me or not, I don't really care. But I've got no reason to lie about it either.

        3. Don't get eliminated(Lying Jeffy thinks about people having anal sex with their sisters)   1 month ago

          Yeah, that a lot of people mocking this Congress lady with a fake ghetto accent constantly saying shit more retarded than AOC in public is weird.

    3. Medulla Oblongata   1 month ago

      RE: Gov Hot Wheels comments

      https://x.com/JasonJournoDC/status/1908982643527496166

      NEW: Chris Cuomo and Bill Maher say the only reason Rep. Jasmine Crockett wasn't canceled for her Gov. Abbott remarks is because she's a black woman

      CUOMO: "Because it's a black woman who's doing it, they're not gonna cancel her."

      MAHER: "You're right. She wears the magic armor."

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 month ago

        What do you call magic armor that only protects you from your own side?

        1. Jefferson Paul   1 month ago

          French armor?

    4. damikesc   1 month ago

      As I've always said --- Democrats will NEVER forgive people for taking away their slaves.

  31. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 month ago

    Biden hid report, despite law requiring release, that multiple service members got sick in Wuhan China during military games held months prior to the outbreak.

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2025/04/report-biden-admin-hid-report-linking-american-covid-cases-to-military-games-in-october-2019/

    1. Don't look at me! (No longer muted!)   1 month ago

      They must have had Bat soup in the wet market!

      1. Medulla Oblongata   1 month ago

        Or fucked a pangolin.

      2. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 month ago

        Did racoon dog handlers participate in the games?

    2. damikesc   1 month ago

      I like that Biden held meetings with Beijing over the spy balloon he permitted to cross the country before he mentioned it about the citizenry.

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 month ago

        He needed the proper talking points.

  32. Longtobefree   1 month ago

    "And how could the city have already spent it all? Where exactly did it go?"

    Take a look at various democrat checking accounts.

    1. Marshal   1 month ago

      It goes to NGOs staffed by left wingers whose leadership is predominantly NEPO babies of Dem politicians and left wing activists who have proven themselves. These jobs are the reward for providing resources in the same way feudal kings rewarded their followers with lands and incomes.

      1. Don't get eliminated(Lying Jeffy thinks about people having anal sex with their sisters)   1 month ago

        Sounds like a bunch of politician’s relatives own buildings that agencies are renting but not actually using.

        But Elon hasn’t gotten rid of Medicaid so who really cares?

  33. Stupid Government Tricks   1 month ago

    More insight from the Trumpistas:

    On Saturday, Elon Musk took to X to mock Navarro's doctorate from Harvard, calling it a "bad thing, not a good thing." Navarro used a Fox News hit to claim Musk's opposition to these tariffs is wholly self-interested: "Elon sells cars. He's simply protecting his own interests."

    Navarro sells bullshit. That's better?

    Anyway, some Trumpista yesterday told me how stupid I was, because Navarro is an Economist with a PhD from Harvard.

    Harvard? Suddenly Harvard is good?

    PhD? We're doing credentialism?

    Well OK then! I bet there's hundreds of Harvard PhD Economists who say Navarro is full of shit, economics-wise.

    What! No, those credentials don't count, they're from Harvard, and Harvard's full of lefties who plagiarize. And Economists? With PhDs? Those guys are ivory tower idealists who can't tie their own shoelaces.

    Yeah! That's telling us, Trumpistas!

    1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   1 month ago

      More bullshit from TDS-addled steaming piles of shit!

      1. Stupid Government Tricks   1 month ago

        More bullshit from Trump? You're right, but he's not done, you'll have more opportunities to notice.

        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   1 month ago

          "More bullshit from Trump?"

          I see you can't read, either:
          More bullshit from TDS-addled steaming piles of shit!
          Fuck off and die, asshole.

          1. Stupid Government Tricks   1 month ago

            You mean you think Trump is not TDS-addled? Wow, what a concept.

            1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   1 month ago

              Thise suffering from TDS are constantly projecting it upon those who aren't. Case in point.

              1. Stupid Government Tricks   1 month ago

                Didn't you just project it on me?

                Case in point.

                1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   1 month ago

                  OK, TDS-addled ass-clown, I can't get this into one-syllable words, but let's see if I can make simple enough that TDS-addled imbeciles like you can understand:

                  "But as to the penguins, I love that for showing your moral bankruptcy. You think penguins are a sign of incoherency, as if I'm too stupid to think of anything else, yet Trump is the one who imposed tariffs on the penguins."

                  No, like your TDS, you are projecting.
                  Tariffs include an entire country, even those portions which are not producing export goods and it would be ridiculous to exclude this province or that island. Only TDS-addled brain-dead shits like you find that hard to understand.
                  Do you have it now, shit-for-brains?

  34. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   1 month ago

    "...b) tanked the global economy..."

    Stuff your TDS up your ass Liz; your head is sorely in need of company.

    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 month ago

      The market is all the way down to 2024 levels. The economy is destroyed. It is 1929 all over again.

      1. Stupid Government Tricks   1 month ago

        Oh, that makes it all better.

        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   1 month ago

          Whine, asshole. Your crocodile tears are delightful.
          Oh, and SELL! SELL! SELL!

          1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 month ago

            Those damn penguins stopped the 1929ish stock market crash today. STG is raging.

  35. Stupid Government Tricks   1 month ago

    No no no.

    There's also the tax cuts are coming super soon, which will offset the tariff pain talking point.

    Trumpistas: No fair quoting what Trump says. You can only note what he does

    Realists: Like penguins?

    Trumpistas: Are you still fixated on penguins? Only idiots worry about penguins.

    Realists: Exactly. Idiots like Trump.

    Trumpistas: Hey, 50 nations have said they want to negotiate new trade deals!

    Realists: Said? There's that word again. Trump did violate 15 trade treaties, including the USMCA he himself negotiated.

    Trumpistas: *crickets*

    1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   1 month ago

      TDS-addled steaming piles of shit: "PENGUINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

    2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   1 month ago

      BTW, shit-for-brains, I'm sure you can find some totally unoccupied islands which are a part of China and are therefore subject to the tariffs and start a whole new round of imbecilic fixation.
      Fuck off and die.

      1. Stupid Government Tricks   1 month ago

        Really? You think Australia was going to sell those islands to China, and that China would buy them so they'd be under the higher China tariff? Or would that be a rent-to-own, or a lease?

        Tell me, O wise one, how did a tariff on an Australian island change the Australian tariff on that same island?

        Please, O wise one, I am ignorant. Ask Jesse, he can tell you.

        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   1 month ago

          "...I am ignorant..."

          No one doubts that; you prove it regularly as in the post directly above.

          1. Stupid Government Tricks   1 month ago

            Your rebuttal skills are a breath of fresh air compared to Jesse.

            1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   1 month ago

              Your reasoning skills are missing.

              1. Stupid Government Tricks   1 month ago

                You haven't shown any yourself, or shown where mine are missing. And I had the brains to move out of San Francisco long long ago.

                1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   1 month ago

                  OK, ass-clown, I can't get this into one-syllable words, but lets see if I can make simple enough that TDS-addled imbeciles like you can understand:

                  "But as to the penguins, I love that for showing your moral bankruptcy. You think penguins are a sign of incoherency, as if I'm too stupid to think of anything else, yet Trump is the one who imposed tariffs on the penguins."

                  No, like your TDS, you are projecting.
                  Tariffs include an entire country, even those portions which are not producing export goods and it would be ridiculous to exclude this province or that island. Only TDS-addled brain-dead shits like you find that hard to understand.
                  Do you have it now, shit-for-brains?

  36. Stupid Government Tricks   1 month ago

    "The problem is, even an administration as dumb as this one can crash the economy."

    And no one wants to fix that by removing so much authority. They only want to change who's controlling so much authority.

  37. Quicktown Brix   1 month ago

    These are strange times.

    1. sarcasmic   1 month ago

      I now understand the meaning of the ancient Chinese curse "May you live in interesting times."

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 month ago

        Doubtful.

      2. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   1 month ago

        Highly doubtful you understand that given your history of understanding terms.

    2. Dillinger   1 month ago

      >>These are strange times.

      it's beautiful! 1988 --> now was strange times ... everyone was pod people walking the planet literally and figuratively getting fat and half-asleep ... while the Rulers stole everything.

  38. sarcasmic   1 month ago

    2022: BIDENFLATION IS KILLING AMERICA!

    2025: A general increase in prices caused by tariffs isn't inflation because it isn't monetary, so stop complaining.

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 month ago

      Remember folks, there's no actual correlation between inflation rates and tariff rates over this country's history, which is easy enough to find with a simple internet search on the data.

      1. sarcasmic   1 month ago

        You know what else? No one in the world ever claimed that tariffs effected inflation rates. So all you're doing is arguing with a strawman.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   1 month ago

          For someone who regularly posts strawmen, you have a complete lack of understanding of what a strawman actually is.

          1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   1 month ago

            It's taken me a while to figure out why Sarc can't seem to wrap his head around what strawman arguments and ad hominem actually are, but I finally got it.
            Sarcasmic had long ago created his own definition for both from which he will not stray, and that is "you disagree with me". That's it.

            1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 month ago

              He also retarded.

              But I have noticed his copy cat mentality. He will hear a term used, then start repeating it ad nauseum, never actually understanding the term nor argument.

              1. Don't get eliminated(Lying Jeffy thinks about people having anal sex with their sisters)   1 month ago

                Ad nauseum means an argument someone makes when they’re nauseous, right?

                — sarc

        2. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 month ago

          You guys are the ones claiming that tariffs cause inflation. SGT is using the "exponential inflation" line, despite the fact that inflation has been ongoing since the end of World War II, with the only real deflation being a very short period during the Great Recession when people were using their discretionary income to pay off debt and savings rates briefly increased.

          The historical math has already shown that tariffs are not inflationary instruments. If they were, the data would confirm that inflation is correlated to tariffs, especially during periods when tariff rates were far higher than they are today.

          The aggregated inflation we've seen over the last 50-plus years is due to primarily to Nixon taking us completely off of the gold standard, followed by the ongoing financialization scheme the Fed's been running for decades now. Nothing tied to an actual standard of value other than "because we say so," is the reason these commercial corporations hollowed out small American towns and told them "tough shit, guess you're going to have to figure out how to survive as a gas stop for travelers" during that time.

          1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 month ago

            Will STG now announce we are in a deflationary period with tariffs being paused after 3 days?

    2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 month ago

      Wheres the 21% cost growth so far?

  39. Medulla Oblongata   1 month ago

    Booker's record-setting "floor speech" (because we've been shrilly warned that it was NOT a Jim Crow "filibuster"!) may have him in a tiny bit of hot water...

    In a letter addressed to Sens. James Lankford (R-OK) and Chris Coons (D-DE), the chairman and vice chairman of the Committee, FACT Executive Director Kendra Arnold asked the Committee "to investigate Senator Cory Booker to determine whether he violated the Senate Ethics prohibition of directly linking official action to a solicitation for campaign contributions."

    As Arnold's letter explained, Booker took to the Senate floor on March 31, and shortly before mentioned his speech on X, urging his followers to tune in. "Both during and after his speech he sent a series of email and text messages that campaigned and fundraised off his speech. These messages specifically discussed his speech on the Senate floor and requested the reader sign up for Booker’s campaign list, included links to his campaign shop, and requested campaign contributions," the letter went on to mention, referencing plenty of examples from April 1 and April 2.

    Personally, I received at least one version of the email in question:

    Photo of Cory Booker.

    Hey [name] – it's Cory.
    Yesterday, I stepped off the Senate floor after speaking for over 25 hours straight — because I cannot stand idly by while Donald Trump and Elon Musk completely disregard the rule of law, the Constitution, and the needs of the American people.

    I may be tired and a little hoarse, but as I said again and again in the Senate: this is a moment where we cannot afford to be silent. We must speak up.

    What’s clear to me is that this is just the beginning. Americans across this country, no matter their title or party, are ready to be heard.

    I believe that history will show we rose to meet this moment.

    It will show that we did not let the chaos and division go unanswered.

    It will show that when our president chose to spread lies and sow fear, we chose to come together, to work together, and to rise together.

    If you’re willing and able, support our movement for justice, opportunity, and freedom by splitting a donation between me and 314 Action today.

    If you've saved your payment information with ActBlue Express, your donation will be processed immediately and split between Cory Booker and 314 Action Fund.

    CHIP IN $10 IMMEDIATELY »
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    314 Action Fund is the only national organization working to train, recruit, support, and elect Democrats with STEM and medical backgrounds to office at all levels of government.

    1. Don't look at me! (No longer muted!)   1 month ago

      Shows how out of touch he is. We are firing people in government, not recruiting.

      1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   1 month ago

        But he's a Democrat. You're allowed to flaunt the rules and engage in things like contempt of Congress and stuff, when you wear the magic (D).

    2. Super Scary   1 month ago

      "If you've saved your payment information with ActBlue Express"

      Why would Cory want donations from Trump voting assassins?

    3. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 month ago

      Booker isn't going to bridge the gap to the voters that switched to Trump any more than Walz or the other queefs in the party could. He's another Obama-type political media creation with none of Obama's actual charisma or stage presence. The filibuster wasn't him doing anything other than blowing a bunch of hot air that didn't move any sort of political needle (Rand Paul's was far more substantive) outside the siloe'd DC class.

      And with Obama's influence rapidly deteriorating after two losses to Trump and another where the corporate/media/government complex ran a color revolution and then bragged about it afterwards, they don't have anyone other than maybe Fetterman who can actually connect with those voters, and that's because he's a lot better at hiding his power level than most of his party. Instead, these idiots are going to continue running peeohhsee female motormouths like AOC and Jasmine Crockett, and continue to further alienate Zoomer men overall during a period where their political influence is going to continue growing over the next 10-15 years.

    4. Purple Martin   1 month ago

      So, MO, after proudly expressing his distain for standardized talking points, just as proudly parrots today's standardized talking point, just like the most fevered Gateway Pundit commenter.

      This one seems to have been cribbed from today's Daily Signal...
      https://www.dailysignal.com/2025/04/09/ethics-complaint-alleges-cory-booker-linked-25-hour-speech-fundraising/

      ...shouldn't you at least cite your sources?

      [Note: it's actually just another partisan media watchdog group doing what partisan media watchdog groups from all sides do (even DS noted it's "FACT, a conservative nonprofit watchdog group")— trying to scandalize an opponent's instance of common political practices. And the real scandal is not what's illegal but what isn't.]

      1. Medulla Oblongata   1 month ago

        I do try to cite sources. I'm not perfect. I this case, the fact that I had personally received the email in question short-circuited my process.

        I never saw the daily signal article you reference, but got this from

        https://townhall.com/tipsheet/rebeccadowns/2025/04/08/fact-complaint-against-cory-booker-n2655180#google_vignette

        and again, since I'm not perfect, will admit I thought this was a letter FROM Sens. Lankford and Coons to the committee, and not a third-party generated source. And this was even after I went to the PDF of the original letter (now I wonder how I could possibly have missed the letterhead).

        I will redouble my efforts going forward!

  40. Medulla Oblongata   1 month ago

    No satisfied with jailing people for praying inside their own homes or mean tweets about pedophile rapists, the UK is looking into "pre-crime"...

    https://news.slashdot.org/story/25/04/09/0028213/uk-creating-murder-prediction-tool-to-identify-people-most-likely-to-kill

    The scheme was originally called the "homicide prediction project", but its name has been changed to "sharing data to improve risk assessment". The Ministry of Justice hopes the project will help boost public safety but campaigners have called it "chilling and dystopian".

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   1 month ago

      Minority Report in real life.

    2. Dillinger   1 month ago

      when will they learn even the Oracles can be incorrect?

    3. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   1 month ago

      I bet indigenous British Ancestry will be its number one risk factor.

    4. Don't look at me! (No longer muted!)   1 month ago

      Futurama did this already.

    5. Marshal   1 month ago

      I promise you the government won't allow anyone to use the most accurate predictors.

      1. Don't get eliminated(Lying Jeffy thinks about people having anal sex with their sisters)   1 month ago

        You could get arrested just for pointing this out there.

  41. I, Woodchipper   1 month ago

    If you think 104% tariffs on China will remain in place very long then I have some stocks I want to lend you for shortselling.

  42. I, Woodchipper   1 month ago

    I will take a short term tariff battle over the death of privacy, the death of crypto, the death of free speech online, the death of sovereignty, the death of secure elections, the triumph of DEI, the triumph of public employee unions, the triumph of mass migration to stuff ballot boxes, the triumph of 15 minute cities, the triumph of global green regime, the triumph of CBDC tyranny, the triumph of price controls on food, the triumph o f everything the Biden/Harris regime stood for.

    I'd like to see the end of income tax as a result of these tariffs though...

    1. Dillinger   1 month ago

      word. I believe it was promised.

  43. Dillinger   1 month ago

    I know we want factories, but the Shill Factory this place has become is burning my soul a bit so today I've decided to be nice and pleasant ... notwithstanding a prior comment on an above thread lol

    >>Or, perhaps Navarro uses Vara as a sort of imaginary friend

    he did goto prison on an imaginary charge can you blame him?

    1. Don't get eliminated(Lying Jeffy thinks about people having anal sex with their sisters)   1 month ago

      I remember when Reason criticized that. Was he the one they shackled in the airport or the one who they told CNN about ahead of time and raided his house with SWAT at 4am?

  44. Dillinger   1 month ago

    >>Expect much more like this:

    single-story fear-mongering? from what I've heard Main Street doesn't care.

    1. Zeb   1 month ago

      I don't think "main street" is the sort of thing that has the capacity to care or not. And no, I'm not being stupidly literal. Small, local businesses have just as diverse a set of interests as anything. Some care, some don't. Some will suffer, some will benefit.

      1. Dillinger   1 month ago

        I'd prefer to wait and see as opposed to kneeling to the media blitz in defense of the ruling class thanks.

        1. Don't get eliminated(Lying Jeffy thinks about people having anal sex with their sisters)   1 month ago

          I love seeing businesses that are currently going out of business blaming the tariffs.

          1. Dillinger   1 month ago

            somebody said "everyone gets a haircut" last summer during the campaign ... just like O's under my energy plan those coal fire plants will necessarily close everyone ignored

        2. Zeb   1 month ago

          I don't even really know what the media blitz is, I can't take that shit anymore. But I'll say it's equally silly just to dismiss something because the idiotic media blitz is making a big deal of it.

          1. Don't get eliminated(Lying Jeffy thinks about people having anal sex with their sisters)   1 month ago

            8 articles in one day (plus a mention in the roundup) is an example of a media blitz.

            1. Zeb   1 month ago

              Like I said, I don't really give a shit what the media is doing and I'm not going to base my views (positively or negatively) on what they are saying or not saying about it all. I think the tariffs are a bad idea and the plan incoherent. On the other hand, I hope I'm wrong about some of it and it works out OK in the end.

              1. Don't get eliminated(Lying Jeffy thinks about people having anal sex with their sisters)   1 month ago

                I was just responding to your first statement.

          2. Dillinger   1 month ago

            >>silly just to dismiss something because the idiotic media blitz is making a big deal of it.

            friendly as possible, idk about you but I've spent my entire life being lied to by the media I think summarily dismissing them is prudent.

  45. Dillinger   1 month ago

    >>Perhaps the most frustrating thing about this, other than the fact that we're basically all getting a lot poorer

    what's frustrating is the professional or personal short-sightedness every one of you has poured out for weeks now

  46. Dillinger   1 month ago

    >>Milton Friedman (who is probably rolling over in his grave right now)

    because sarcEric says so? I bet a true in-depth look may reveal more than a cherry-picking of quotes did

  47. Dillinger   1 month ago

    >>"Our Founders were clear: tax policy should never rest in the hands of one person."

    Rand Paul's selective outrage is as obvious as his permanent curl.

    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   1 month ago

      This. They act like Freidmans career was built on one policy preference and he would never modify his stance given data generated by that policy.

      1. Dillinger   1 month ago

        Prime Meanster is funny.

  48. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   1 month ago

    "Judge Boasberg cancels hearing on Trump deportations after Supreme Court ruling"
    [...]
    "U.S. District Judge James Boasberg has canceled a Tuesday afternoon hearing on the Trump administration's use of the Alien Enemies Act to deport alleged migrant gang members without due process, after the U.S. Supreme Court ruled Monday evening that the administration could resume carrying out such deportations..."
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/judge-boasberg-cancels-hearing-on-trump-deportations-after-supreme-court-ruling/ar-AA1CxnBw?ocid=BingNewsSerp

    Perhaps the judge might figure out that TDS is not a constitutional amendment?

    1. Don't look at me! (No longer muted!)   1 month ago

      Winning.

    2. Dillinger   1 month ago

      he found out it's awful hard to hold a hearing on a case not in his court.

    3. Medulla Oblongata   1 month ago

      Politico:

      A federal appeals court has cleared the way for the Trump administration to resume firing thousands of probationary government employees, lifting a lower-court judge’s order that had blocked most of the mass terminations.

      A divided three-judge panel of the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals concluded Wednesday that the coalition of Democratic attorneys general who brought the case appeared to lack legal standing to challenge the firings.

      The appeals court’s 2-1 ruling came one day after the Supreme Court lifted another judge’s order blocking the dismissal of some of the same federal workers, also on standing grounds. That leaves no remaining legal impediment, for now, to the effort by Trump administration leaders to shrink the federal workforce by summarily firing large swaths of employees across nearly 20 major federal agencies.

      1. Don't get eliminated(Lying Jeffy thinks about people having anal sex with their sisters)   1 month ago

        Poor Sullum.

  49. Medulla Oblongata   1 month ago

    If you don't have any news, make it up!

    Just got email from Daily Kos:

    Trump wants tanks for his birthday. Literally.

    Donald Trump turns 79 this June—and he’s reportedly planning a military parade through Washington, D.C., complete with tanks, missiles, and fighter jets. It’s not just bizarre—it’s a glimpse into the authoritarianism he craves.

    This isn’t just a birthday stunt. It’s:

    An ego-fueled display of power
    A preview of a second-term strongman fantasy
    A distraction from the chaos he leaves behind
    Daily Kos is sounding the alarm. While the mainstream media dismisses these warning signs, Daily Kos is connecting the dots—covering Trump’s authoritarian ambitions and keeping progressives informed and ready to act.

    Of course, even Politco addressed this earlier:

    “No military parade has been scheduled,” the White House said in an email response to questions from POLITICO.

    After witnessing Bastille Day celebrations in Paris alongside French President Emmanuel Macron in July 2017: “I don’t know. We’re gonna have to try and top it,” he said later, “but we had a lot of planes going over and a lot of military might, and it was really a beautiful thing to see.”

    The media freaked out then, too, with a parade planned in 2018 but Trump thought better of it after claiming DC Mayor was gouging the federal government for the costs of such a thing. Bowser is making the same noises now, so don't expect a parade.

    Admiring a special event and wishing for a similar experience is not "An ego-fueled display of power" nor "A preview of a second-term strongman fantasy".

    P.S. what does it mean when France holds a military parade? Was that one held because Macron's dick is too small?

    1. Incunabulum   1 month ago

      What ever it is, it's ok when anyone except us does it.

  50. Incunabulum   1 month ago

    >"c) was, so far, shockingly unpopular
    Unpopular with who though?

  51. One-Punch_Man   1 month ago

    Experts Liz? The ones at Reason that are constantly wrong and only go on feelings?

    The experts that said hey if you protest of social justice Covid will skip you? 2 weeks to flatten the curve? No why it came from a Chinese lab.

    The experts - the economy is great, inflation is a myth. Inflation is transitory.

    The experts that now say there are 100s of genders?

    Which ones are we talking about? Just don't use the ones you don't like, got you.

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