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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

AOC's Justifications of Violence

Plus: City-owned grocery stores, commentary on the OnlyFans sex stunt, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 12.13.2024 9:30 AM

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Experiencing the violence: "This collective American experience, which is so twisted to have in the wealthiest nation in the world, all of that pain that people are experiencing is being concentrated on this event," said Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D–N.Y.) to reporters, commenting on the murder of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson, presumably at the hand of Luigi Mangione, a 26-year-old with chronic pain who was apprehended following the shooting. "This is not to say that an act of violence is justified, but I think for anyone who is confused or shocked or appalled, they need to understand that ppl interpret and feel and experience denied claims as an act of violence against them. People go homeless over the financial devastation of a diagnosis that doesn't get addressed or the amount they're gonna have to cover with a surprise bill and things like that. And when we kind of talk about how systems are violent in this country in this passive way, our privatized health care system is like that for a huge amount of Americans."

Gets pretty freaky when you realize how long the list is for "things lefties experience as violence." https://t.co/6DuOh2BzBX

— Mary Katharine Ham (@mkhammer) December 12, 2024

I do not know what "experience as violence" means or how the denial of a health care claim could possibly be considered violence. It's not hard to see the direct lineage of this way of thinking, given that some progressive activists and Democratic politicians and elites in academia have spent the better part of the last decade claiming that words can be violence. The idea of what ought to be considered violence has been expanded—a bit of linguistic trickery that seems hollow and patently false to people who have actual proximity to true violence; pablum that only gets spouted by those who are quite sheltered.

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Ocasio-Cortez is not only wrong to justify a murder, but she is also wrong on the merits: Government-run health care (which she supports, citing Canada specifically) does not erase suffering or indignity within the medical system. Sometimes it's the cause.

Take the case of Adam Burgoyne, a man from Montreal who, on the cusp of turning 40, suffered an aneurysm a week ago today. "Had a bit of a health scare last night, but thankfully it wasn't a heart attack," he wrote on December 5. "Not sure what it was, though, because once they made sure I wasn't dying I was thrown out into the waiting room and 6 hours later I said f*ck it and went home. Canadian health care, folks. Best in the world." He died the next day.

Burgoyne's tragic story has been making the rounds on the internet, but it's one of many examples of delayed care that ends up being a denial of care because the person passes away before doctors actually figure out what is wrong with them. "Universal" health care ends up being not so universal after all. Tradeoffs aren't erased in any medical system.

Canadian patients waited longer than ever this year for medical treatment.

Learn more: https://t.co/o4NCdiP2wv pic.twitter.com/KfnufljsW6

— The Fraser Institute (@FraserInstitute) December 12, 2024


Scenes from New York: "N.Y.C. Grocery Prices Are High. Could City-Owned Stores Help?" asks an imbecilic New York Times headline from yesterday. Let me go ahead and save you a click: No, absolutely not. Do not even think about it. This is not the way.

Or, go ahead and do it. Open "five municipal grocery stores—one in each borough" and let me film it for Reason, I dare you.


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  1. Fist of Etiquette   5 months ago

    Gets pretty freaky when you realize how long the list is for "things lefties experience as violence."

    Words are their only recognized violence.

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   5 months ago

      SILENCE IS VIOLANCE!

      1. Sometimes a Great Notion   5 months ago

        Even when we duct tape our mouths in silent protest?

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

          Wrong approach. You need to duct-tape their mouths (and hands and feet).

          1. Don't look at me!   5 months ago

            Oh, using buttplug”s method.

      2. Anomalous   5 months ago

        I have nothing to say about that.

    2. damikesc   5 months ago

      I wonder if she approves similar things when government passes laws that hurt you or restrict your rights.

      ...asking for a friend.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

        Depends. What's your intersectional oppression score?

        1. Wizzle Bizzle   5 months ago

          Not anymore. Now it only depends on your voter affiliation.

      2. Idaho-Bob   5 months ago

        Not just passes laws. When the gov't uses the FBI o pressure social media to censor. When the press vilifies any on the right for their opinions.

        Christopher Dorner and Marvin Heemeyer were heroes.

    3. Mike Parsons   5 months ago

      the whole point of the rhetoric and language manipulation is to justify doing whatever they want to their enemies.

      "What did you expect us to do, they were GENOCIDING us!"

      1. A Thinking Mind   5 months ago

        If they want to go down this road, where murder is justified if you pick the right targets, I guarantee you they will not like the last few stops.

        1. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   5 months ago

          They never do. It never occurs to them that they might sometime be on the wrong end of the firearm.

          1. Wizzle Bizzle   5 months ago

            Or the wrong end of blocking judges. Or on the wrong end of weaponizing the FBI. Or the wrong end of #BelieveAllWomen. Or, or, or...

            Their lack of foresight is key to their philosophy. Anyone capable of thinking two steps ahead cannot possibly justify voting for modern leftist policy. It's obvious where MMT, open borders, decriminalized crime, gender fairytales, etc lead.

        2. Mike Parsons   5 months ago

          Ya, there are just as many if not more disaffected, angry, and 'fed-up' people on the right. And they are well armed.

          They really dont want to start this game of street justice based on people's feelings. There is a large amount of insanity tolerated from the left that needs to be shut down in one way or another. They dont want to open this door

          1. Michael Ejercito   5 months ago

            I guarantee this.

            Pretty much everyone who cheers the murder of Brian Thompson demanded that hospitals deny medical care to those who refused to take the COVID-19 vaccine!

            1. Juliana Frink   5 months ago

              "Pretty much everyone who cheers the murder of Brian Thompson demanded that hospitals deny medical care to those who refused to take the COVID-19 vaccine!"

              I suspect you are right on the money with that.

    4. B G   5 months ago

      Words are violence and "silence is violence" in cases where they see people as having failed to say the "correct" thing, or to engage strongly enough as "anti-whatever" (which usually entails using exactly the method/tactic they're claiming to abhor but directing it at someone that the left has decided is "problematic").

      What doesn't count as violence is looting and/or arson (if they happen somewhere that a "chosen" group is protesting, assault on anyone that's failed to "check their privilege", and now possibly the premeditated killing of anyone with above a certain level of net worth and/or a job title which ends in "Officer".

  2. Fist of Etiquette   5 months ago

    This is not to say that an act of violence is justified, but-

    BUT we all secretly know it is.

    1. Anomalous   5 months ago

      She likes big "but's" and she cannot lie.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

        You know who else liked big buts?

        1. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   5 months ago

          Sir Mix-a-lot?

          /and he cannot lie

        2. Sometimes a Great Notion   5 months ago

          Joe Camel?

        3. MK Ultra   5 months ago

          Hub City Stompers?

          https://youtu.be/4qqaEEGFaP0?si=TPjDv6mOkgroNK4p

        4. Super Scary   5 months ago

          Me.

        5. Jefferson Paul   5 months ago

          Alex Stein?

          1. Don’t. Get. Eliminated.   5 months ago

            Winner

  3. Fist of Etiquette   5 months ago

    ...given that some progressive activists and Democratic politicians and elites in academia have spent the better part of the last decade claiming that words can be violence.

    Sticks and stones can break my bones but misgendered pronouns IS LIKE A KNIFE RIGHT IN THE HEART.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

      Bleed out faster, bitch.

      1. Jefferson Paul   5 months ago

        "Bitch"? Did you just assume zer's gender?

  4. Don't look at me!   5 months ago

    AOC is a brain dead person who has no business being quoted on any subject whatsoever.

    1. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   5 months ago

      Except to make fun of her.

    2. Sometimes a Great Notion   5 months ago

      And yet that makes her more than qualified for Congress.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

        And a champion for progressives.

    3. Juliana Frink   5 months ago

      Picture a billboard depicting a caricature of AOC wearing a white leotard and bunny ears. "Screw the Rich" is splashed diagonally across the leotard in red. Her expression is that classic AOC with the bug-out eyes and buck teeth. Standing along the sidelines, applauding her are Kamala Harris, Tim Walz, Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi and other villains of the Democrat Party. A caption below the image reads: "Silly Rabbit! Socialism is the ELITES' Paradise."

    4. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   5 months ago

      It would be ironic if she were brutally raped and murdered by an illegal or one of her own party members who has an axe to grind with her.

      You know, instead of a good person, like Riley Gaines.

  5. Fist of Etiquette   5 months ago

    Canadian patients waited longer than ever this year for medical treatment.

    Fast, good, or cheap. Pick none, or head south of the border.

    1. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   5 months ago

      The thing is socialized medicine is never going to be good, but Trudeau imported 2 million a year into a population smaller than California, spread out over a country bigger than the US, and didn't increase healthcare spending by a dime.
      The results were completely predictable.

      Just like by introducing MAID, it's part of the Malthusian eliminationist ideology pushed by Schwab's Young Leaders of Tomorrow grads.

      The same thing is happening in the UK where Two-Tier Kier is paying bounties to families who have their elderly put down.

    2. Restoring the Dream   5 months ago

      Old quality control saying:
      Price.
      Quality.
      Delivery date.
      Choose any two.

  6. Don't look at me!   5 months ago

    Perhaps the funniest day of my life was watching the Facebook lawyers explain to @peterthiel that he counts as diverse under the then-mandatory Nasdaq DEI rules.

    That was the funniest day of your life?
    How sad.

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   5 months ago

      She clearly never saw airplane!

      And it's very telling that to the leftists their idea of fair is "any thing that directly benifit me, society be damned"

      1. TrickyVic (old school)   5 months ago

        I speak jive.

        1. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   5 months ago

          “Chump don't want no help, chump don't get da help. Jive-ass dude don't got no brains, anyhow. Hm!”

          1. TrickyVic (old school)   5 months ago

            Shit (Golly)

      2. Anomalous   5 months ago

        I picked the wrong week to give up sniffing glue.

      3. Rick James   5 months ago

        Shirley, you must be joking!

        1. Don’t. Get. Eliminated.   5 months ago

          Don’t call me Shirley.

          1. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   5 months ago

            The white zone is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only. There is no stopping in the red zone.

          2. Jefferson Paul   5 months ago

            As a kid, I liked Airplane 2 better. It recycled many of the jokes from the first movie, but added a few zingers in there. The best was the part where the guy said he just needs a little breather. Then some Mexican midget dude who's breathing heaving is presented.

      4. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

        "Now, Elaine, don't panic. On the belt line of the automatic pilot there is a hollow tube. Now that is the manual inflation nozzle. Pull it out - and blow on it."

  7. Fist of Etiquette   5 months ago

    N.Y.C. Grocery Prices Are High. Could City-Owned Stores Help?

    JTFC.

    1. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   5 months ago

      Word to the wise, if Chicago is trying it, it probably isn’t a good idea.

    2. Ajsloss   5 months ago

      If grocery prices are high, maybe they should just start executing shop owners. People can only be pushed so far.

      1. Sometimes a Great Notion   5 months ago

        But gun and bullet prices have skyrocketed and anyway we forced all those stores out of the city years ago.

        1. MWAocdoc   5 months ago

          Ghost guns are counter-inflationary ...

      2. Gaear Grimsrud   5 months ago

        The price of butter is a universal lived experience.

    3. Ska   5 months ago

      Surprisingly even Times readers shit on this retarded idea.

      1. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   5 months ago

        I guess even sone ideas are so stupid most commies think they’re stupid. That is, unless they’re named Brandon Johnson and happen to be Mayor of Chicago.

      2. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

        They had experience from the teachers union run charter school. Lowest scores in the city, closed down in a few years.

    4. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   5 months ago

      "...Could City-Owned Stores Help?..."

      No.

      1. Ron   5 months ago

        you only need one type of cheese and its not even real cheese

        1. Jefferson Paul   5 months ago

          "cheese product"

  8. Idaho-Bob   5 months ago

    "This is not to say that an act of violence is justified, but...

    Nearly every fucking leftist in the last couple weeks has said exactly this.

    1. Zeb   5 months ago

      Kind of goes along with their excuse making for (the right kind of) rioters.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

        (D)ifferent.

    2. alconnolly   5 months ago

      And it is utterly valid. The system has poured millions into capturing the guy who killed an "untouchable" who made tens of millions by making decision that resulted in untold deaths. While pouring a fraction of those resources into catching all the other no name murders in the city. This is the system freaking out becuase they thought they had impugnity, and they are worried they might not.

      1. Zeb   5 months ago

        Really? So which decisions are you talking about? And how many deaths? What other decisions could have been made under current law and regulation that would have avoided these deaths?

        1. Ska   5 months ago

          The CEO of the insurer always approves or denies paying the invoices my doctor sends to my insurance provider. Doesn't yours?

          1. Longtobefree   5 months ago

            Actually, mine just follows the laws, rules, and regulations put forth by the federal government.

            1. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

              Mine follows the contract I signed for coverage.

          2. Don't look at me!   5 months ago

            Yes, and every time he stamps “denied”, he gets an erection.

            1. VinniUSMC   5 months ago

              That's the "men don't have to pay for Viagra" patriarchy for ya.

      2. Knutsack   5 months ago

        In that case, who is off limits? CEOs, middle managers, customer service reps, doctors, nurses? Board members? Politicians? Educators?

        1. Don’t. Get. Eliminated.   5 months ago

          Everyone that voted for Obamacare?

        2. TrickyVic (old school)   5 months ago

          Only party approved people are off limits.

      3. Sometimes a Great Notion   5 months ago

        You get what you pay for.

        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   5 months ago

          Commie shits imagine there's a Jackson orchard in every company plaza. The are stupid shits, aren't they?

      4. Marshal   5 months ago

        While pouring a fraction of those resources into catching all the other no name murders in the city.

        The best estimate for that fraction is 1/1.

        Left wingers make the same complaints about everything demonstrating there is no analysis underlying their assertions.

      5. Don’t. Get. Eliminated.   5 months ago

        Fuck off commie.

      6. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   5 months ago

        "And it is utterly valid..."

        Fuck off and die, commie shit.

      7. Brandybuck   5 months ago

        The core problem is not insurance. The core problem is a third party payer system. Replace corporate insurance with single payer system like Medicare For All (US) or just Medicare (Canada) or even NHS (England) and you will have a third party payer system. Costs skyrocket and eventually someone gets to decide you must wait six months for a visit to the doctor to evaluate your chronic pain.

        Third Party Payer health care is like bread in Russia: Not everyone gets it.

        De-corporatize the US medical system, de-administrate it, and return it to a market system. Then take care of the poor by providing vouchers. Bam. Done. Let the market work at the same time you take care of the poor with tax dollars. Then we can stop the stream of Canadians coming to the US for healthcare services out of pocket.

        1. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

          Look at you making the GOP argument during ACA. Now I'm almost curious enough to see what you said at that time. My guess is this is another one of your failed systems you supported initially.

          1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   5 months ago

            At least he got there in the end. Something Sarc and Pedo Jeffy will never do.

        2. TrickyVic (old school)   5 months ago

          The core problem is price. Modern health care is expensive.

          Heath care costs so much you can't afford it on your own. I'm not talking about a standard office visit. I spent half a day in a hospital for two stents and it was $187K. Half as much as a house. For one day.

          Now, if insurance did not pay, should I be mad at the insurance for not paying the outrageous price, or the people charging me the outrageous price?

          In a true market, if no one could afford it, the place either lowers their prices or goes out of business.

          1. Don't look at me!   5 months ago

            How much would you be willing to pay for the stents?

            1. Stupid Government Tricks   5 months ago

              To paraphrase Jack Benny, he's thinking! He's thinking!

            2. A Thinking Mind   5 months ago

              How much would you be willing to pay for bread if you were starving and there was only one supplier?

              If there was an actual market and competiton, prices would come down. Just because they are selling a necessity doesn’t mean it’s worth infinite money. I need food, but I can shop around for the best prices and values and not go broke just feeding myself. Medicine should work the same way, and it doesn’t because of ACA and government regulations.

              1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   5 months ago

                It's also your HEALTH, for pete's sake. Skimp elsewhere.

                1. A Thinking Mind   5 months ago

                  You’re missing the point. If nobody is competing by offering to do the same procedure for less money, there’s zero incentive for anyone to try to cut costs. And there is no price transparency or free market in medicine, because it’s all regulated and obscured by insurance, which is required to cover certain things by law.

                  If there was a free market, I could look at what the difference is between someone offering to do a procedure for $50K, and the people who are charging $180K, and deciding whether the difference is worth the extra expenditure. And if it’s not worth it, the more expensive people go out of business.

                  That’s how a healthy market should work, and we’ve pretended that medical care doesn’t get to operate like a normal market.

                  1. YehoshuaK   5 months ago

                    Competition works through incentive, sure, but it also works through discovery.

                    Take early cars. They were very expensive, toys only for the rich. As much as everyone who thought about it could see that a mass-market car at a low price point would sell in huge numbers, nobody could make a car that cheap.

                    Until Henry Ford came along and invented the assembyline. Suddenly, he could make cars for far less than his competitors and sell them for a price that most Americans could afford.

                    And once his competitors saw how the assembly line worked, they implemented it in their factories, too, and the same goes for other industries.

                    But if there had been a government-controlled market, Ford would never had devoted the brainpower to the problem of how to make cars for less, the assembly line would not have been invented (or at least, not till much later), and we'd all be much poorer.

                2. Zeb   5 months ago

                  Or don't. It's not my health and it's none of my business.

                  Also, it's not skimping if you simply can't come up with $187k.

          2. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

            A lot of those costs are due to government regulations. Look at inflation adjusted costs from the 60s.

          3. Chupacabra   5 months ago

            In large part, the prices are ridiculously high because providers have to make up for losses incurred by mandated care for Medicare, Medicaid and illegal immigrants.

            1. Red Rocks White Privilege   5 months ago

              Medicare has a dedicated revenue stream, and while it doesn't always cover 100% of outlays, it does cover at least most of it every year. That should actually improve as the Boomers die off, because Gen-X is such a small demographic of today's generations.

              Medicaid is an entirely different matter. That is ALL pure outlay. Every single penny. There is no revenue stream for it. And it's been the leading driver of the nation's debt growth for most of the 21st Century, especially since Obamacare passed.

              1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   5 months ago

                So getting rid of the illegals should help a lot.

          4. Zeb   5 months ago

            You could probably get that in India or Mexico for $20k with a luxury overnight stay.

      8. Sometimes a Great Notion   5 months ago

        Guess that whole defund the police thing isn't working out well.

        1. TrickyVic (old school)   5 months ago

          Defund the rich will work out just as well.

      9. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   5 months ago

        "This is the system freaking out becuase they thought they had impugnity, and they are worried they might not."

        You're functionally evil.

        Luigi Mangione was not insured by UnitedHealthcare, say police

        1. Super Scary   5 months ago

          Maybe he was just doing the left's favorite past time, raising awareness of an issue.

        2. A Thinking Mind   5 months ago

          Just another radicalized whack job. In a year where there were two assassination attempts on a presidential candidate, this is just more of the same, only more successfully done.

          And it shouldn’t be surprising that his only motivation is ideology given how many people are applauding him based solely on ideology. The problem is that there’s a dangerous ideology spreading and going unchallenged, and I think we’re heading for worse before it gets better.

          1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   5 months ago

            Yep, another democrat murderer. We shouldn’t allow them to roam free.

      10. Restoring the Dream   5 months ago

        It's "impunity", ignoramus.

      11. Zipcreature   5 months ago

        You mean like prosecuting Dan Penny or LITERALLY a President, you dishonest lying fuck?
        Go gaslight elsewhere.

      12. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   5 months ago

        You’re kind of dumb, aren’t you? Are you Pedo Jeffy? You kind of sound like him, and he’s stupid too.

  9. Fist of Etiquette   5 months ago

    A more woo-woo term for complete audience capture…might be egregoric possession...

    A more choo-choo term might be pulling a train on camera for money.

    1. tracerv   5 months ago

      I think a porn star did this in the 90s. Was it Houston? Maybe Annabel Chong? Both?

      1. Ajsloss   5 months ago

        But this was just the pregame to her 1,000 person train that is on the way.

      2. Anomalous   5 months ago

        Most of her audience wasn't even born in the 90s.

      3. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   5 months ago

        You’re thinking of Houston. It was called ‘The Houston 500’. I remember her on Howard Stern’s show talking about it.

        Her Wikipedia page:
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houston_(actress)

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

      You know who else loves trains?

      1. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   5 months ago

        Benito Mussolini?

      2. Ajsloss   5 months ago

        Soul Sister? Virginia?

      3. Quicktown Brix   5 months ago

        Indian Ocean dolphins?

      4. Stupid Government Tricks   5 months ago

        Old-fashioned brides?

      5. Its_Not_Inevitable   5 months ago

        Gladys Knight?

        1. Marshal   5 months ago

          The pimps?

      6. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   5 months ago

        Mayor Pete?

      7. Don't look at me!   5 months ago

        Joe Biden?

      8. soldiermedic76   5 months ago

        The crew of the USS Barb?

    3. Quicktown Brix   5 months ago

      I read that QuickHit twice and I still have no clue WTF she's trying to say, but this I understand.

      1. Fist of Etiquette   5 months ago

        You're welcome.

  10. Fist of Etiquette   5 months ago

    Phillips is driven by two very modern forces: the OnlyFans business model, which financially rewards this kind of shocking stunt, and the ideology of liberal feminism...

    Yeah, which wave feminism is getting railed by a line of dudes for an audience of dudes again?

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   5 months ago

      All of them. Feminism creates broken people

    2. Mike Parsons   5 months ago

      The modern dating / sex / sex work / porn world, if you went back in time and explained it to a woman 100 years ago, she would have to assume it was fully invented by the patriarchy (TM)

      1. Marshal   5 months ago

        They will call it the patriarchy in the future as well.

        1. VinniUSMC   5 months ago

          "Victims" have no agency. Thus is was written, thus it will always be. Leftists have never been known to accept responsibility.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

            But they will accept your apologies. And your money.

    3. Don't look at me!   5 months ago

      I wouldn’t care for sloppy seconds, let alone #101.

      1. Ajsloss   5 months ago

        "Any tread left on those tires or is it more like throwing a hotdog down a hallway?" - Stewie Griffin

        1. Its_Not_Inevitable   5 months ago

          From Predator: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdorQm5vAtU

      2. The Margrave of Azilia   5 months ago

        What's #101? You're brought into a special room to be tortured?

  11. Fist of Etiquette   5 months ago

    Trump's economic advisers are considering doubling the state and local tax deduction...

    Sure. Why the fuck not. He's the quintessential Democrat. I guess we're flipping all the blue states "red" now.

  12. damikesc   5 months ago

    "Or, go ahead and do it. Open "five municipal grocery stores—one in each borough" and let me film it for Reason, I dare you."

    Given that profitability is not needed for a government anything --- you'd end up with ONLY 5 grocery stores per borough.

    I bet it might be cheaper, but the LOOOOONG lines might be a problem.

    1. Idaho-Bob   5 months ago

      Don't forget shortages. The govvy operated stores will ignore the bulk of supply chain issues and run out of food.

      Communism 101.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

        Just outlaw shortages. Duh.

        1. Its_Not_Inevitable   5 months ago

          Or round up the kulaks and make an example of them.

          1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   5 months ago

            Then send an invoice for the bullets used to their families.

    2. Mike Parsons   5 months ago

      long bread lines are a staple for the left

      1. Don't look at me!   5 months ago

        A sign of prosperity!

        1. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   5 months ago

          Exactly. See, there are long lines because the bread is so good and in high demand, comrade.

          1. Ajsloss   5 months ago

            Government bread is the Apple watch of bread.

  13. Fist of Etiquette   5 months ago

    New Just Asking Questions on how trans issues have scrambled our politics (and how the left can recover)...

    They'll only recover when the right inevitably and royally fucks up its chance to right the ship and when the left discovers the next niche bullshit to get their captured institutions to beat the rest of us over the head into accepting as the most important thing in the world.

    1. Mike Parsons   5 months ago

      "They'll only recover when the right inevitably and royally fucks up its chance to right the ship"

      The right's progress against this nonsense (and impending SCOTUS ruling) is at least somewhat optimistic. Hopefully they keep it up

    2. Rick James   5 months ago

      The last 15 years, described in one short run-on sentence.

      1. Fist of Etiquette   5 months ago

        You're welcome.

  14. Fist of Etiquette   5 months ago

    SpaceX HQ will now officially be in the city of Starbase, Texas!

    In Texas no one can hear you sweat, but you're definitely going to.

    1. Don't look at me!   5 months ago

      Will they have a company store?

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

        That only accepts Musk-bucks?

  15. alconnolly   5 months ago

    Liz Wolfe claims that AOC justified murder by explaining peoples reactions.
    Using her logic she supports genocide because she explains Israels genocide in Gaza.
    She also uses a single anecdote of a person in Canada dying from bad medical service to imply an equivalence to the US one. However we have statistics that show the outcomes in Canada on a statistical basis are much much better on almost every metric associated with longevity and quality of life for a fraction of the per person cost for the care that Americans pay.
    It is this kind of dishonesty that shows she is not interested in truth, but in pushing the agenda of the profiteers who make hundreds of billions from Americans blood.
    Shame!!

    1. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   5 months ago

      Are you a sock?

      1. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

        Either jewfree or mizek.

    2. damikesc   5 months ago

      Man, the lefty AI is really, really bad.

      1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   5 months ago

        You mean lefty AS.

    3. Mike Parsons   5 months ago

      "much better on almost every metric associated with longevity"
      Sure, unless you take out the homicide/suicide and drug related deaths. Care for normal health situations (heart disease, cancer, old people shit) is top notch in the US

      " and quality of life"
      uh, no. You would have to live in Canada. Non starter there. Ill keep my US insanity I know and not trade it for the soy fem little bitch of a PM who debanks citizens that get too rowdy.

      " for a fraction of the per person cost "
      Much cheaper! Because the treatment timeline is either "how about 2-3 years from now?" vs "have you considered just dying instead?"

      1. Eeyore   5 months ago

        If you kill everyone who is sick - everyone will be healthy.

        1. Longtobefree   5 months ago

          Same thing for 'homelessness'.

          1. Eeyore   5 months ago

            Don't forget illiteracy.

      2. damikesc   5 months ago

        Just keep in mind --- the state of Vermont has more MRI machines than the entirety of Canada.

        1. Randy Sax   5 months ago

          I thought that was Pittsburgh.

          1. TrickyVic (old school)   5 months ago

            Both? and more?

            1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

              Nobody needs 23 MRI machines.

    4. Marshal   5 months ago

      for a fraction of the per person cost for the care that Americans pay.

      The left time the left implemented their solution for this we spent ~2 trillion dollars and didn't improve a bit. Since the first effort at improving efficiency is usually the easiest I wonder what they have planned for this time: spending 10 trillion and actually decreasing performance?

      We're not dealing with a bright group of people here.

      1. sarcasmic   5 months ago

        The left time the left lefted leftness, lefty left lefted.

        You've turned into a big, red, MAGA Smurf.

        1. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   5 months ago

          How much have you had to drink this morning to come up with such wit and wisdom, Sarc? An entire 750mL bottle of everclear?

        2. Marshal   5 months ago

          Go play with the goats Hodor.

        3. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   5 months ago

          That's the Sarc we have come to rely on. A paragon of integrity. Always addressing the ideas, never the people.

          1. sarcasmic   5 months ago

            Go left yourself.

            1. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

              This is the good faith civil discussion sarc demands.

            2. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   5 months ago

              Are these the “ideas” you talk so highly about?

              1. Don't look at me!   5 months ago

                Are you trying to get “muted”.

            3. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   5 months ago

              Is that like MAID or Aktion T4?

              1. sarcasmic   5 months ago

                Ask Marshal.

                He's the one who said "The left time the left lefted their left for left we lefted..."

                1. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

                  This is the good faith civil discussion sarc demands.

                2. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   5 months ago

                  You're the Democrat apologist here, so I'm asking you.

                3. Super Scary   5 months ago

                  Pretty sure he meant to say "last time the left".

                  1. Marshal   5 months ago

                    Sure, but there's no reason to correct it because we all knew it. He's just being an asshole. Or as we understand it: he was being himself.

                  2. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   5 months ago

                    I am sure as well, but Sarc thinks he’s being funny when he’s just being an ass.

            4. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

              Are you extra-drunk today?

              1. Don’t. Get. Eliminated.   5 months ago

                The holidays are rough on sarc.

                1. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   5 months ago

                  The holidays are just fine on Srac, it's his liver we need to pity.

                  1. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   5 months ago

                    Isn’t that just a normal day?

        4. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

          This is the good faith civil discussion sarc demands.

        5. TrickyVic (old school)   5 months ago

          ""You've turned into a big, red, MAGA Smurf.""

          Says the guy that complains about ad hominin attacks.

          1. sarcasmic   5 months ago

            Ad hominem attacks are when someone dismisses an argument because of something about the person making it. I was just making fun of a typo. An insult is not an ad hominem. Like when I say you're a willfully ignorant partisan piece of excrement, I'm not saying that to refute an argument. So that's not an ad hominem. On the other hand if I say you're wrong because you eat shit for breakfast and give blowjobs to anyone with a MAGA hat, that would be an ad hominem. See the difference? Didn't think so. You're too stupid and dishonest.

            1. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   5 months ago

              No. You don't get to just make up the definitions to suit whatever troll you decided to run with this morning.

              1. sarcasmic   5 months ago

                https://www.google.com/search?q=ad+hominem+fallacy

                It's even got a picture of you.

                1. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   5 months ago

                  Now that is an ad hominem attack.

                2. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   5 months ago

                  You didn't quote a source, you quoted a search engine. Which explains why you still don't know what ad hominem means.
                  Try clicking on one of those results some day.

                  1. sarcasmic   5 months ago

                    You're really terrible at gaslighting.

                    1. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   5 months ago

                      Probably because that's not what gaslighting means either. You're getting these wrong on purpose, aren't you?

                    2. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

                      Isn't it work hours in Maine? Why are you committing fraud against your employer by posting so much?

            2. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   5 months ago

              Except that you’ve made multiple ad hominem attacks on people multiple times and have been called out for that shit, hypocrite. And when called out for it, the first reaction you have, dipshit, is the mute those calling you out for ad hominem attacks and your own hypocrisy.

            3. TrickyVic (old school)   5 months ago

              ""An insult is not an ad hominem. ""

              Correct.
              So you trying to insult people now?

              1. sarcasmic   5 months ago

                So were you lying or being stupid when you accused me of making an ad hominem attack?

                Which was it? Stupidity or dishonesty?

                1. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   5 months ago

                  No, your fucktardery.

                2. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

                  More good faith civil discourse.

                  Im starting to wonder if sarc is a giant hypocrite.

                3. Don’t. Get. Eliminated.   5 months ago

                  Poor sarc.

                  1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

                    Definitely extra drunk today.

                    1. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   5 months ago

                      And he’s an angry fucking drunk. Fortunately, when he’s drunk and angry, he gets extra stupid.

                4. TrickyVic (old school)   5 months ago

                  So now you are trying to say my argument was wrong because I'm stupid or dishonest?

                  What would you call that?

                  1. sarcasmic   5 months ago

                    You've got that backasswards. I'm saying that your argument was stupid and dishonest, which means you're stupid and/or dishonest. So which are you? Stupid or dishonest? Or both? Those are the only possible explanations for what you said.

                    1. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   5 months ago

                      You see, the hypocrite Sarc, although unknowing of the actual definition of ad hominem, is indeed a walking talking ad hominem machine.

                    2. Bertram Guilfoyle   5 months ago

                      So much good faith today. How do you do it?

            4. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

              Yes. Exactly what you do when anyone gives you a citation that counters your open borders into a welfare state beliefs. Such as...

              sarcasmic 10 months ago
              Flag Comment
              Mute User
              I don't consider links from you guys to be information. I've clicked a couple and never found them useful. It has to be from, or confirmed by, someone other than a raving right-wing lunatic for me to give it consideration.
              *shrug*

              Weird.

              1. sarcasmic   5 months ago

                Find me a citation that isn't from an organization dedicated to the proposition that illegals are vermin that need to be exterminated, and I'll give it consideration.

                1. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   5 months ago

                  Was Ashli Babbitt vermin, Sarc?

                2. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

                  Their numbers come from the federal government dumbass.

                  And you just committed a literal ad hominem lol.

                  Then you go back to your strawman that anyone not for open borders into a welfare state is racist.

                  Never change you drunk lefty fuck. Lol.

            5. Marshal   5 months ago

              Later on today he'll claim to be here for good faith discussion which only doesn't happen because others are mean to him.

              1. sarcasmic   5 months ago

                I've tried with you, and all you did was make snide remarks.

                1. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   5 months ago

                  More than you deserve, tbqh, troll.

                2. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   5 months ago

                  You going to mute him too, dipshit?

                3. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

                  Cite? You started attacking him after he simply disagreed with you. Your standard action of appeal to morality or your refusal to defend your own beliefs.

                4. Marshal   5 months ago

                  sarcasmic
                  I've tried with you,

                  We all know that you've never made any effort to have a good faith discussion with anyone ever. That's proven every day when your first comment is an attack not even based on the subject. The only reason you keep bringing it up is to foster an attack on others.

                  That's your only priority and no one is ever going to forget it.

            6. Marshal   5 months ago

              I was just making fun of a typo.

              You couldn't address the substance so you trolled the thread away from something that could have damaged the left, achieving your top priority.

              We know.

              1. sarcasmic   5 months ago

                There was no substance to address. You made something up, argued against it, then accused your imaginary foes of being stupid.

                1. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   5 months ago

                  Self awareness is not a Sarcasmic superpower.

                  1. Bananas   5 months ago

                    Every fucking thread this asshole comes in and posts nonsense.
                    I say we all mute him since all he wants is attention. Then we can have conversations about libertarianism in peace.

                    1. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   5 months ago

                      I complain, but Sarcasmic is my lolcow.
                      Probably 5-10% of the reason I come here is to see what his drunken and retarded ass will post next.

                    2. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

                      Im the same as ML. I find it hilarious watching the dumbass try to pretend to be an intellectual and failing at every step.

                    3. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   5 months ago

                      I’ll admit to being with Jesse and ML here. Sarc is merely entertaining to watch as he ducks, dives, and weaves his way through the total avoidance of any accountability whatsoever here for his comments.

                    4. Super Scary   5 months ago

                      I did a mid-morning check of this Round Up and there were about 100 comments. Lunch time hits, I come here and it's over 300? My first thought was "What are Sarc and Jesse yelling at each other about today?"

                    5. Bananas   5 months ago

                      I get it but he doesn't even care about any of the topics you guys argue about. Do you think he gives a shit about tariffs or illegals? Do you think he actually likes that pedo dude?
                      He just wants to fling shit at you guys because he's lonely. It's actually sad at this point.

                    6. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

                      To be fair. I joined late today. It was sarc vs everyone else lol.

                    7. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   5 months ago

                      He just wants to fling shit at you guys because he's lonely. It's actually sad at this point.

                      I’ve accused him of similar in the past with no comment from him. He comes in here specifically to look for a fight. I think that’s why he chums up to Jeffy and White Mike so much. He has a guaranteed fight if he white knights their positions.

                2. Marshal   5 months ago

                  Note how sarc refuses to address that left wingers are still using the same complaints they did before our $2 trillion spent on Obamacare. He doesn't want to admit that because it's damaging to the left.

                  Then you have to ask why a 'libertarian" would have this priority. And the answer is that no libertarians have this priority. None.

      2. Eeyore   5 months ago

        The affordable care act was written by the health care industry. The purpose was to increase costs and profits.

        1. Bananas   5 months ago

          The Healthcare industry or the Health Insurance industry?

          1. Eeyore   5 months ago

            Both. Drug companies also wrote large parts of it.

    5. Don't look at me!   5 months ago

      Move to Canada, leave us alone.

      1. Mike Parsons   5 months ago

        weird to me that the people with resources to move and apparently the motivation (per them) never do, yet tons of people fly to the US to get treatment.

        1. Longtobefree   5 months ago

          Perhaps because Canada has very strict immigration laws?
          Lots of those who say they will run away to Canada would not be accepted.

      2. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   5 months ago

        No!
        We don't need more retards.

    6. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   5 months ago

      "Using her logic she supports genocide because she explains Israels genocide in Gaza."

      Fuck off and die, antisemitic shit pile.

    7. sarcasmic   5 months ago

      Liz Wolfe claims that AOC justified murder by explaining peoples reactions.

      Remember when anyone who acknowledged that blowback existed was accused of supporting terrorism? Good times.

      1. Don't look at me!   5 months ago

        Ideas™ !

      2. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   5 months ago

        If you acknowledged blowback existed, you’d be less of a simp for Jeffy, White Dicksalad, and the fucking Pedo.

      3. Don’t. Get. Eliminated.   5 months ago

        No, I don’t remember that.

        1. VinniUSMC   5 months ago

          Even if it happened, sarcjeff doesn't remember it. It must've come in his ActBlue talking points memo for today.

        2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   5 months ago

          Because nobody ever did. It is possible to acknowledge blowback exists without making excuses for it like AOC just did.

          Sarc has never met a fallacy he wouldn't fellate.

          1. sarcasmic   5 months ago

            I bet you were one of those who attacked anyone who said "blowback" and now you're just lying about it.

            1. Don’t. Get. Eliminated.   5 months ago

              I’m sure you have citations for your claims.

              1. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   5 months ago

                Sarc doesn't give citations because you only want to use them for something bad faith like disproving his argument.

            2. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   5 months ago

              You wouldn’t know blowback if it blew you in the ass, twit.

            3. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

              This is the good faith civil discussion sarc demands.

              Doubles down on his own strawman. Lol.

              1. sarcasmic   5 months ago

                I'd have better luck trying to teach Mozart to a chimp than attempting good faith conversation with you or any of your gang.

                1. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

                  This is the good faith civil discussion sarc demands.

                  If you're going to pretend to be an intellectual at least choose a more obscure figure than Mozart.

                2. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   5 months ago

                  You’re highly intractable.

                3. VinniUSMC   5 months ago

                  Even a chimp would know better than to listen to you.

                4. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   5 months ago

                  "than attempting good faith conversation with you or any of your gang."

                  This must be why Sarcasmic has never attempted anything in good faith at all.

                  1. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

                    We've given him books and links, and you see right above he refuses to acknowledge any information that counters his bumper stickers.

                    Thats good faith his way. And he immediately dismissed it with bad faith ad hominem attacks.

                    We have tried good faith multiple times and he has rejected it.

                    Even asking him to back his claims is met with bad faith attacks lol.

            4. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   5 months ago

              I bet you got a raging erection dragging your teenage daughter out of her bed and now you're just lying about it.

              Do you enjoy the taste of your own fallacies, fuckstick?

              1. sarcasmic   5 months ago

                You might want to learn what fallacy means before using the word again, chimp.

                1. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

                  This is the good faith civil discussion sarc demands.

                  What's funny about this is for years sarc called insults to him an ad hominem. He misuses words constantly.

                  So what we've learned about sarc today:

                  Hypocrite
                  Projects
                  Not intelligent
                  Angry little drunk

                2. Don’t. Get. Eliminated.   5 months ago

                  Sarc didn’t deny Chuck’s accusation.

                3. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   5 months ago

                  You might want to learn what fallacy means before using the word again, chimp.

                  This, like your previous comment, is a complete red herring. Look it up, shitstain.

              2. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

                Lol. He tried to literally attack my parenting skills yesterday. Despite his CPS story or the story of his daughter keying cars.

                He has this weird addiction to projecting his own failures onto others. Likely to explain away his own failures as not caused by him.

          2. Don’t. Get. Eliminated.   5 months ago

            My guess is sarc used blowback incorrectly to justify something stupid he said.

            1. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   5 months ago

              But of course. Vous attendiez-vous autrement?

          3. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

            Or drug dealer.

        3. Zeb   5 months ago

          There were people on here that made that argument for sure (maybe not to the extent of accusations of supporting terrorism). Definitely John. I'm pretty sure there were others.

          1. Don’t. Get. Eliminated.   5 months ago

            Do you remember the context he was using it in?

            1. Zeb   5 months ago

              People arguing that our involvement in the middle east might have had something to do with 9-11.

      4. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

        No i don't. Do you have a cite? Or this one of your alcohol induced stories?

        1. sarcasmic   5 months ago

          Unlike you I have not bookmarked thousands and thousands and thousands of comments on Reason. It is a fact that many right-wingers attacked anyone who said "blowback" and accused them of supporting terrorists. Like how you attacked anyone who disagreed with your dishonest assertion that every BLM protester was a rioter, and dishonestly accused anyone who did of supporting riots.

          1. Don’t. Get. Eliminated.   5 months ago

            So you got nothing.

            Hey, let’s see:

            Blowback exists.

            1. Bertram Guilfoyle   5 months ago

              As one of the anti-"blowback" guys here, I say that blowback is bad theory. I call it bullshit because it doesn't hold up and it is used selectively. The US literally nuked a country 80 years ago, and it became one of our allies... no "blowback" there.

              Now, notice that I did not call you a supporter of terrorists.

              I have, and will again call sarcasmic/misek/jeff/trueman apologists for terrorists, not because they say the word "blowback" but because they take all Hamas's claims at face value, and parrot their talking points.

          2. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   5 months ago

            Sarcasmic: "I didn't say that, you're a liar, prove I said that, where's your evidence I said that you liar, where's your proof?"

            Also Sarcasmic: "Unlike you I have not bookmarked thousands and thousands and thousands of comments on Reason"

            Remember everybody. Sarc is very principled. Just ask him and he'll tell you.

            1. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

              And even given word for word quotes he still denies the clear meaning of the words.

              The dude is just dumb. He wishes so hard to be intellectual. The dumb kid at the front of the class raising his arm the teacher avoids because the teacher is tired of always correcting him.

          3. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

            So it is one of your alcohol deluded made up stories. Thanks for confirming.

            The funny thing is saec claims to be in IT but can't figure out a simple search for a 10/7 article. My guess is he does know how it works but he knows he is lying.

            1. sarcasmic   5 months ago

              You're making a lot of comments today. Must be a slow day at the help desk.

              1. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   5 months ago

                The hot cop help desk? I hear they're all tall and well groomed.

              2. Don't look at me!   5 months ago

                Ideas™ !

              3. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   5 months ago

                Still waiting for the bar to open, Sarc?

                1. Bertram Guilfoyle   5 months ago

                  Don't you mean liquor store?

              4. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

                Lol. And look at him use my same joke about his IT career back at me.

                Can't even make up your own insults. Wow.

                You still haven't figured out timezones? You have for more posts during working hours than I do. Oh. I'm also already on vacation for the year. Lol.

                Having a non hourly job has benefits buddy. Should try it out some day.

          4. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   5 months ago

            Except the real right wingers said things like, "Your right this is going to cause blowback, which is why we should turn their country into glass." Your right wingers are figments of your imagination.

            And what people here actually said was that BLM protesters who refused to disperse and leave the area were providing cover for the rioters. Because by not going leaving the area and forcing the police trying to stop the riot to pay attention to them, they provided cover for the rioters. It doesn't matter if they supported the riot or not, they provided cover either way.

            Dissemble, deflect, distract.

            1. sarcasmic   5 months ago

              And what people here actually said was that BLM protesters who refused to disperse and leave the area were providing cover for the rioters.

              No, that's not what was said Retcon Man. What was said, by Jesse anyway, was that anyone who protested was a rioter, and anyone who didn't condemn all the protesters supported riots. I refused to condemn everyone who showed up, and for that, to this day, he claims I defended the riots. That's because he's a mendacious piece of shit, and you are as well for defending him.

              1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   5 months ago

                You are a liar. I was part of those conversations and that is exactly what was being said. Regardless of their intentions, the protests ended up being cover for riots that ensued. We all witnessed it live on TV as people were filmed flinging firebombs at the courthouse and the protesters just kept holding the line in front of the cops, preventing them from interfering.

                You can't rewrite history that we all still remember, you fucking lunatic.

              2. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

                Lol. And just a straight up lie from sarc. Amazing.

                Your alcoholic memory is wrong as usual.

                While you were screaming with jeffmike about unmarked police vans I was saying how the crowd helps black block avoid detection. Seen from videos. Videos you refused to watch. Lol.

                Going out night after night to help hide criminals acting on crimes is called aiding. If you're there night 5 of the riots, knowing a crime will be committed, and helping hide the perpetrator, you are committing a crime.

                Unlike you who wants 20 year charges for committing no violence or damage for J6 protestors and even people not even at J6.

                Such a pathological liar.

              3. Jefferson Paul   5 months ago

                I refused to condemn everyone who showed up, and for that, to this day, he claims I defended the riots.

                You don't seem to hold that same standard when it comes to Jan. 6.

      5. Bertram Guilfoyle   5 months ago

        Why is blowback mono-directional to you fucks?

    8. Ron   5 months ago

      And if we remove certain groups from studies in the U.S. to be similar to the racial makeup of Canada you will find the U.S. is doing as well or better than Canada

    9. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

      Eat a bullet.

    10. soldiermedic76   5 months ago

      First, the explanation is bullshit from AOC. The shooter was from a wealthy family and is doing well himself. He was never a client of United Health, and had his surgery covered. So, AOC was full of shit, as are you. The explanation better, is that he was a typical leftist, who was targeting CEO out of a twisted political motivations.

      1. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   5 months ago

        Yeah, the guy killed some totally unrelated guy for a supposed crime that he was never a victim of, while all the Democrats shout "Huzzah, justice".

  16. Super Scary   5 months ago

    "Burgoyne's tragic story has been making the rounds on the internet, but it's one of many examples of delayed care that ends up being a denial of care because the person passes away before doctors actually figure out what is wrong with them."

    But it's free!

    1. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   5 months ago

      Well, Adam Burgoyne met his Saratoga here.

      1. Longtobefree   5 months ago

        You must be really old to have learned that.

        1. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   5 months ago

          Yes, back when schools actually taught history and not 1619 shit with a rainbow pedo flag.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

            Ticonderoga!

    2. Don't look at me!   5 months ago

      Letting people die saves money!

    3. Mickey Rat   5 months ago

      And worth every penny.

  17. Sometimes a Great Notion   5 months ago

    FTC to sue Musk for false claims, SpaceX HQ isn't located on a Star making it in fact not a Starbase. As a nation rolls its eyes.

    1. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   5 months ago

      Still less ridiculous than a Politico fact check on Trump.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

      FTC also to demand that SpaceX divests parts of orbits, since holding an entire orbit creates a monopoly. Or something.

    3. Longtobefree   5 months ago

      Nonsense!
      If he identifies it as a star, it IS a star!

  18. Quo Usque Tandem   5 months ago

    The saddest commentary is that someone like AOC even has a platform to espouse their vapid ideas.

    1. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   5 months ago

      Maybe she should have the platform so everyone can see how vapid she really is. Then we can endlessly mock her for being so vapid.

      1. Don't look at me!   5 months ago

        There are plenty of stupid people, she isn’t special.

        1. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   5 months ago

          True. Jeffy, Sarc, and Shrike are all stupid, but we do make fun of them.

    2. Eeyore   5 months ago

      I think she should be allowed to run an OnlyFans.

  19. Don’t. Get. Eliminated.   5 months ago

    Lying Jeffy and shrike celebrate:

    Joe Biden has given an executive grant of clemency to Shanlin Jim.

    Shanlin Jin was arrested in January 2021. He pled guilty to possessing 47,000 child p0rnography images.

    During Jin’s trial in Texas, an FBI special agent testified that his family was “connected to influential members of the Communist party in China”, according to court records.

    Local police investigators reported that an IP address associated with Jin's residence was involved in sharing child p0rnography through a peer-to-peer network, including a video depicting the s3xual assault of an infant by an adult male.

    Upon entering his home, they discovered child p0rnography displayed on Jin's computer, which contained videos involving “babies and toddlers”.

    https://x.com/SarahisCensored/status/1867286972835696871

    1. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   5 months ago

      And somehow, Sarc will white knight either one of them for this. Why? Because the cops caught the guy, and we’re the bad guys for having decided that there should be rules and actually have principles.

    2. VinniUSMC   5 months ago

      That might explain why sarcjeff is so drunk today. He's celebrating the return of his babies and toddlers fix.

  20. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   5 months ago

    "..."This is not to say that an act of violence is justified, but..."

    You just managed to do exactly that, you slimy pile of shit.

    1. Mickey Rat   5 months ago

      Again showing how a "but" in such a sentence negates that which came before it.

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   5 months ago

        'I'm all for the first amendment, but...'
        No, you're not.

  21. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

    'This is not to say that an act of violence is justified, but I think for anyone who is confused or shocked or appalled, they need to understand that ppl interpret and feel and experience denied claims as an act of violence against them.'

    Hey, AOC, guess what people interpret and feel and experience from confiscation of individual liberty and personal wealth. What should you expect us to do in response?

    1. Marshal   5 months ago

      Also, he did not have a claim denied by UHC since he was never insured by them.

      No, the reality is that because he was weak-minded he took left wing propaganda at face value and acted on it. The left wingers putting up wanted posters are similarly encouraging others to follow in his footsteps, which is exactly what AOC and E Warren are encouraging.

      1. Gaear Grimsrud   5 months ago

        This dude is clearly Unabomber level lunatic. He was wealthy and had a successful back surgery. He wasn't denied coverage or medical treatment. He's at the age where a significant number of men slide into schizophrenia. He didn't pick Thompson for any personal or logical reasons. This has nothing to do with his "lived experience" or anybody else's. Son of Sam killed people because his neighbor's dog told him to. I'll bet a C note that this dude hears voices too.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

          And if he didn't hear voices before, he does now. On the advice of counsel.

          1. Longtobefree   5 months ago

            No comment

        2. mamabug   5 months ago

          That is probably the saddest thing about all of this - it wasn't even personal. His target could have been any number of people and his actual motive is disconnected from reason and reality.

          Yet every moron with an opinion and a soapbox is acting like this was the equivalent of Luther nailing his 95 thesis to the door.

          1. soldiermedic76   5 months ago

            Which, at the time, Luther didn't consider it to be ground breaking. It was common practice at the time to nail theological debates to the cathedral door, and the selling of indulgences was already quite controversial. Also, many of the arguments Luther made had been made by Wycliffe and (shit drawing a blank, the Czech clergyman who was burned as a heretic after the Emperor had promised him protection). Luther just happened to have occurred in the correct time. Humanism and budding nationalism were becoming the norm in his days, and many of the Northern German states were growing disenchanted with the Holy Roman Empire, and especially the Hasburgs, so his reforms were more lasting than the former two's were.

            1. soldiermedic76   5 months ago

              Hus that was his name. Hate that when it happens. Oh, and Luther admitted he was influenced by Hus, less sonby Wycliffe but Hus was influenced by Wycliffe. As you can gather, I'm not a fan of the Great Man history hypothesis. I don't think great men influence history. I think, rather that the times create great men. Wycliffe and Hus were both condemned for many of the same ideas that Luther espoused, but because times had changed, Luther lived while his ideological/theological predecessors died as a result of their beliefs.

        3. Marshal   5 months ago

          There is at least one key difference:

          The unabomber developed his own theories which were largely driven to extremism by his own schizophrenia.

          Luigi is acting on the left's manifesto which is extreme because presenting everything as apocalyptic is how they motivate their followers.

          So I don't think the unabomber comparison is exact in that it hides responsibility for who radicalized the killer. But it is helpful in a different sense. How do we prevent the unabomber murders from recurring? We prevent the mentally ill from exposure to his or similar manifestos. How do we prevent Luigi's murders from recurring? We challenge the propaganda system which led to it.

          To do this we need media and education systems which prioritize the truth instead of prioritizing extremist propaganda hoping to drive political action.

  22. DRM   5 months ago

    This is not to say that an assassination is justified, but I think for anyone who is confused or shocked or appalled, they need to understand that people interpret and feel and experience the Congresswoman's speeches and votes as an act of violence against them.

  23. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

    'I do not know what "experience as violence" means'

    Liz, you will never know until some grifting progressive tells you, in order to make a claim against you.

  24. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   5 months ago

    Just to make sure you know, crime is largely reduced under Biden's administration:

    "Safeway to close San Francisco supermarket over rampant theft, safety concerns"
    [...]
    "The Safeway supermarket chain has announced that it will close down one of its key locations in San Francisco in February due to concerns that customers and employees were at risk from rampant theft and threats to their safety..."
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/safeway-to-close-san-francisco-supermarket-over-rampant-theft-safety-concerns/ar-AA1vKo73?ocid=BingNewsSerp

    1. Don’t. Get. Eliminated.   5 months ago

      If all the stores close, shoplifting will be reduced to nothing.

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   5 months ago

        And, as SF found out with a flaming Soros-backed DA, legalizing shoplifting reduces the crime rate.

    2. Marshal   5 months ago

      What more could you ask for? The Biden plan completely and permanently solved shoplifting in that store.

  25. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

    '"Not sure what it was, though, because once they made sure I wasn't dying I was thrown out into the waiting room and 6 hours later I said f*ck it and went home. Canadian health care, folks. Best in the world." He died the next day.'

    Died from Canadian health care, or with Canadian health care?

    1. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   5 months ago

      To be pedantic, there's no such thing as "Canadian Health Care" as all the provinces run their own systems.
      The Canadian government does provide some funding for health care to the provinces using money it steals from Alberta.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

        OK, died with health care in Canada, or from health care in Canada?

        1. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   5 months ago

          Yes.

  26. DRM   5 months ago

    So, among the beneficiaries of Biden's mass commutation yesterday?

    Michael Conahan ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Conahan ), the judge who was sentenced to Federal prison for taking kickbacks to send kids to for-profit juvenile detention facilities.

    1. Don’t. Get. Eliminated.   5 months ago

      A pattern starts to emerge…

      1. mamabug   5 months ago

        The pattern of some shadow committee shoving their wish list of items under Biden's nose and having him sign it before he goes back to his nap?

  27. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

    '"N.Y.C. Grocery Prices Are High. Could City-Owned Stores Help?" asks an imbecilic New York Times headline from yesterday. Let me go ahead and save you a click: No, absolutely not. Do not even think about it. This is not the way.'

    Liz, you simply do not understand progressive "economics". These stores will have "fair" i.e. below-market prices, set by politicians and community activists. And they will pay "living" wages, well above typical supermarket rates. And the result will be operating expenses many times revenue.

    In the free world, that would doom the enterprise to quick failure. But in progressutopia, other money will magically appear in order to balance the books.

    1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   5 months ago

      It's that Jackson orchard out back.

    2. Ron   5 months ago

      they will just tax the profitable stores to support their state owned stores.
      Newsom just raised company taxes to cover California's missing monies. if a person can't account for missing money the last thing you do is give them more money

      1. Longtobefree   5 months ago

        Ah yes, the grocery store unification plan.

  28. Mighty Lion   5 months ago

    This article is a total misrepresentation of AOC's position. In no way did AOC "justify violence." She specifically excluded violence: "This is not to say that an act of violence is justified ..."

    1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   5 months ago

      Sarc or stupidity?

      1. Don’t. Get. Eliminated.   5 months ago

        Or fifty cents.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

          Or just a left-wing symp with a crush on that ex-bartender.

    2. TrickyVic (old school)   5 months ago

      But, (as she says)

      And then she explains how people feel it's violence against them.

      Violence against you allows for a violent response in the name of self-defense. She's making an excuse for those who may respond because of the violence they perceive.

      1. Marshal   5 months ago

        Although a wrong assertion since Luigi was never covered by UHC and thus could never have been denied by them. She and the other lefties are trying to use this murder to get what they want politically which will encourage other left wingers to do the same.

        And we're seeing left wingers come out of the woodworks to support that effort.

        1. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   5 months ago

          If Luigi was never covered by UHC, this lends more credence that this could actually be a hit of some kind. Why kill someone who couldn’t either approve or deny your issue?

          1. Don’t. Get. Eliminated.   5 months ago

            Meanwhile, in a totally unrelated story, Nancy Pelosi was admitted to a hospital in…Luxembourg.

            1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

              Does this mean Mr. Nancy is home alone again?

              1. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   5 months ago

                I guess as long as he isn’t hammered…

            2. Ajsloss   5 months ago

              Nancy Pelosi and Nancy Mace come out of a room with one chair. Do you sniff the chair?

            3. Eeyore   5 months ago

              Am I allowed to be filled with Joy?

          2. Zeb   5 months ago

            I'm pretty sure the CEO isn't approving or denying anyone's claims.

          3. Marshal   5 months ago

            Why kill someone who couldn’t either approve or deny your issue?

            He's acting in support of more abstract goals, political goals.

            We are all inundated with left wing political hatred every day of our lives. Some people tune it out, but it seems he did not. When someone lashes out against the scapegoats of this propaganda and has no other basis for his actions it seems overwhelmingly likely he internalized their propaganda and acted on it. This is what both AOC and EW believe as proven by their comments linking his action to their political preferences which implicitly asserts his motivation.

            I think they are correct their propaganda drove him to this. Where we differ is that I see it as disgusting and an indictment of their process while they see it as an affirmation.

    3. Zeb   5 months ago

      Then just fucking say "murder is wrong" and don't try to tie it in to your pre-existing political positions.

    4. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

      Eat a bullet.

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   5 months ago

        ^+1

    5. Red Rocks White Privilege   5 months ago

      "I'm not saying it was justified, but it was justified through this dialectic I'm asserting here."

    6. Zipcreature   5 months ago

      I’m not saying to vigilante shoot AOC (like BLM Hawk guy said after the Penny innocent verdict) BUT I would absolutely understand if someone shot AOC. She lives in the Bronx I hear. I don’t support that, but you can only push people so far before they find her and kill her.

  29. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

    "In another time and place, none of this would have happened to her," writes Louise Perry of the aforementioned stunt. "Phillips is driven by two very modern forces: the OnlyFans business model, which financially rewards this kind of shocking stunt, and the ideology of liberal feminism, which she has absorbed without a moment's thought."

    No chance that Phillips made a rational choice according to her autonomous free agency? Or are women (again) too fragile to be in charge of themselves?

    1. But SkyNet is a Private Company   5 months ago

      Do you understand that people with free will can also be influenced? And that not all influences are benign?

  30. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

    'Why would we ever want to disincentivize high-earners climbing their way up to the top, living in metropolitan centers, and generating enormous amounts of productivity for their industries (medicine, law, finance) and thus society?'

    Maybe because many of them are flaming liberals who support higher taxes (and spending) but then seek to avoid paying.

    Let's try increasing tax deductions based on voting records.

    1. Don’t. Get. Eliminated.   5 months ago

      Only net tax payers can vote

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

        And pay tax rates according to the candidates (and tax policies) they selected.

  31. Brandybuck   5 months ago

    > Justifications of Violence

    The moral justification of violence against your enemies will be sued as moral justifications for the retaliatory violence by your enemies back. I mean, duh.

    It's as stupid as assuming Obama would always be in power forever and ever amen and expressing eschatological shock when Trump inherits those same powers.

    Physical violence is only justified to counter physical violence. I don't give a shit if we're talking about multi-millionaire CEOs or multi-millionaire congress-bimbos.

    Part of me thinks that this is the last gasp of social justice progressivism, a last flailing gasp directed at colleges and media to keep up the socialism because Lenin will be arriving by train any momemt. But another power of me thinks this is just another milestone in the race to the bottom that both sides are engaged in. I fear our only way out is the total collapse of civilization and the slow rebuilding from the rubble a century hence.

    1. Mike Parsons   5 months ago

      " I fear our only way out is the total collapse of civilization and the slow rebuilding from the rubble a century hence."

      Dont make the marxists cream their pants, that was the plan all along

    2. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

      Are you one of the idiots saying it is wrong to hold government officials accountable to their abuses with the incoming administration?

  32. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

    'New Just Asking Questions on how trans issues have scrambled our politics (and how the left can recover)'

    De-programming? Public confession? Suicide?

    1. Longtobefree   5 months ago

      Anything but accept reality.

  33. Roberta   5 months ago

    "...our privatized health care system..."
    Privatized? When did that change happen?

    1. Zeb   5 months ago

      Don't you know? The default state is government control of everything.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

        Including your privates.

  34. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   5 months ago

    “This is not to say that an act of violence is justified, but I think for anyone who is confused or shocked or appalled, they need to understand that ppl interpret and feel & experience denied claims as an act of violence...”

    Oh, the cruel irony of Ashii Babbitt being shot in the throat, justified on the pretense of protecting this harridan who had already fled the building.

    1. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   5 months ago

      Careful now, you’ll summon Sarc’s defense of the cop who shot Babbitt.

      1. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

        It was just revealed he was disciplined in like 2003 for eating and drinking in a closet during his shift. He was supposed to be fired. Records were removed from J6 Committee files. No wonder sarc likes him.

    2. Bananas   5 months ago

      I feel that being told that I will be fired if I don't take a covid shot is an act of violence against me.
      I feel that forcing kids to take the shot is an act of violence.
      I feel that shooting unarmed people is an act of violence.
      I feel that throwing non violent protesters in jail for years is an act of violence.
      The NAP has been violated by our betters so many times that I feel like all bets are off at this point. A libertarian publication might be inclined to bring this up.

      1. Dillinger   5 months ago

        being told you will (a) if not (b) presents a dilemma and choice, not violence what the fuck?

        1. Bananas   5 months ago

          Suck my dick or you're fired.
          Violation of the NAP?

          1. Dillinger   5 months ago

            depends if you like that kind of thing but also not real. walk away.

            1. Bananas   5 months ago

              Not real? Are you Sarcasmic?

          2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   5 months ago

            Depends on if you have enough cash to make it until the lawsuit settles and the prick can afford the payout.

          3. Vernon Depner   5 months ago

            MUH PRIVUT KUMPNY!

  35. Bananas   5 months ago

    If the media applied the same standard to Democrats that they apply to Republicans, Democrats would have a tough time winning national elections and Libertarians or another 3rd party might be able to garner enough support to be taken seriously.

    1. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   5 months ago

      True, but they won’t as they’re partisan hacks who promote one party at the expense of the others.

  36. Rick James   5 months ago

    Liz, why are you weighing on the sex stunt before our tech and sex reporter? Is she limbering up for the contortions she's gonna have to do to describe this as empowering?

    1. Don’t. Get. Eliminated.   5 months ago

      I’d love to hook Good Liz up to a lie detector and ask her her opinion of ENB.

  37. Mickey Rat   5 months ago

    The objection to SALT deductions is that it shields high tax states and localities from the competitive consequences of those tax policies. The desrability for everyone else for having the high earning elites in high tax metropolitan areas is...what exactly?

    1. Marshal   5 months ago

      Exactly, this is a terrible idea.

      1. Mickey Rat   5 months ago

        Liz lives in NYC and has some personal interest in SALT deductions, but suggesting that the federal tax code should be used to socially engineer the economic desirability to live in NYC, SF and LA is a strange argument from a free market perspective.

    2. Longtobefree   5 months ago

      Too lazy to look up blue state tax rates, but how much income would you need to have over $10,000 in state taxes?
      Talk about tax breaks for only the ultra-rich - - - - - - - - - -

  38. Mickey Rat   5 months ago

    The progressive justifies violence in the face of things like health care claim denial because they ignore the problem of scarcity in their rhetoric in order to demonize private enterprise. Once they have put the government in charge of providing health care, this rhetorical trick goes away until the government system needs more funding, but violence against that system will be considered a great evil.

  39. Mickey Rat   5 months ago

    The most pitiable thing about the Lily Philips stunt is the interview after where she tears up and admits that it is not an experience she would recommend.

    1. Rick James   5 months ago

      Look, it's like running a marathon. It's hard on the body. Athletes tear ACLs, sex workers tear cervixes.

      1. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   5 months ago

        Those parts were not meant to be used in that fashion. It’s going to dry up and tear on her, and might not really be useable again if it scars badly.

        1. Eeyore   5 months ago

          If she limits everyone to a single thrust she could get that number up to 10k.

          1. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   5 months ago

            But, does it count if they don’t come?

            1. Eeyore   5 months ago

              Did she get verification that all 100 did? No. And there is no way all 100 did. It was probably something like 80 and 20 halves.

    2. Ajsloss   5 months ago

      Allegedly, she's going for 300 on the 15th and working her way up to 1,000.

      1. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   5 months ago

        How big of a fucking loser does a guy have to be to even want to be a part of that?

        1. Mike Parsons   5 months ago

          In medical school we had patient volunteers (paid well) for all the standard exams (full physical, breast exam, abdominal focused, pelvic, etc).

          On pelvic exam day, we all lined up, stood there quietly, awkwardly, and were assigned to one of 10 patients. The one lady was an actually pretty hot local stripper (and rumor had it, a pay for play one).

          So in that line, a good 20 of us stood awkwardly waiting to shove a speculum into this sex worker. Id imagine it felt eerily similar to that experience.

        2. damikesc   5 months ago

          You sure as heck would want to be first.

          How little does she think of herself to do something she clearly did not like again...only more.

          Her hope for a future is over. No self-respecting man would CONTEMPLATE dating her. Seems kinda sad, honestly.

          1. Zeb   5 months ago

            Who knows, maybe she'll find some gay-for-pay dude who took it in the ass from 100 dudes one day and they'll live happily ever after.

    3. Eeyore   5 months ago

      I had to Google that name. Half the links say 100, the other half say 101.

    4. A Thinking Mind   5 months ago

      And this is why I disagree with ENB that sex work should be destigmatized. She should feel shame at devaluing herself in this way, and people should be disgusted at the decisions she made.

      She should absolutely be allowed, and if men want to pay to watch or participate in this, they should be allowed. But it’s not something to be proud of. It’s not something the family should be sharing around with pride. “Look at our baby girl having a train run on her! Proudest day of my life.” We’re proud of graduations or getting promoted, not cheapening yourself.

      Do it if you want, but you also accept the consequences of it.

  40. Dillinger   5 months ago

    >>"This collective American experience, which is so twisted to have in the wealthiest nation in the world, all of that pain that people are experiencing is being concentrated on this event," said Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

    shut up and make with my Manhattan.

    1. Mike Parsons   5 months ago

      The only good thing about AOC is that amateur dance video she made where she was shaking her tits around. That is all

      1. Dillinger   5 months ago

        it was a good day yes.

  41. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   5 months ago

    Now is the time for a blitz through the institutions. The Left is exhausted. BLM is shattered. Trans is imploding. Trump has a mandate to abolish DEI, defund left-wing racialism, and restore public authority over the public institutions. The counterrevolution starts now.

    1. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   5 months ago

      Rufo is right. Strike while the iron is hot and the twits are on the run.

    2. Mike Parsons   5 months ago

      it really couldn't be a better time.

      A big part of Kamala losing was independent/normies being fed up with the massive shift of the overton window the left pulled off post Floyd/COVID.

      They truly have a mandate, they should dismantle everything the left has put in place over the last decade

      1. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   5 months ago

        The danger now comes from the GOPe, and there are plenty of those weasels still in the senate and congress.

  42. Dillinger   5 months ago

    >>I want to consider the possibility that Phillips' stunt is more intelligible understood not in terms of liberal feminism or the sexual revolution or whatever

    pretty easily understood as performance art idk if it has to go deeper.

    1. A Thinking Mind   5 months ago

      I’m surprised so many men actually were willing to go deeper into this girl.

      1. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   5 months ago

        Balls deep in a sticky situation.

  43. Dillinger   5 months ago

    >>collective entities arising from (or perhaps perceived by) multiple human consciousnesses

    every once in awhile a phish show will do this.

  44. Dillinger   5 months ago

    >>"In another time and place, none of this would have happened to her," writes Louise Perry of the aforementioned stunt.

    I don't mean to be crass but gangbangs were on vhs.

    1. Ajsloss   5 months ago

      And it "happened to her" the same way that vodka shots "happened" to me the other night.

      1. Dillinger   5 months ago

        ya that came off like the teenager's mom believing her child was tricked into the hijinks

  45. See.More   5 months ago

    > "This is not to say that an act of violence is justified, but I think for anyone who is confused or shocked or appalled, they need to understand that ppl interpret and feel and experience denied claims as an act of violence against them..."

    Tell me you've never been punched in the face or kicked in the cooter without telling me you've never been.

  46. Uncle Jay   5 months ago

    "This collective American experience, which is so twisted to have in the wealthiest nation in the world, all of that pain that people are experiencing is being concentrated on this event," said Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D–N.Y.)"

    Demonstrating once again what a dumb cunt AOC is.

    1. Zeb   5 months ago

      I bet she's never considered that maybe the US is the richest country because it doesn't think (traditionally at least) of wealth as a fixed thing to be divided up equitably, but as something that people earn through hard work and innovation.

  47. TJJ2000   5 months ago

    Leftard Self-Projection 101.
    "our privatized health care system"

    Sorry AOC. You Democrats have destroyed our privatized health care and you F'En know it. The only one you have to blame is yourself and your like minded socialists.

  48. Zipcreature   5 months ago

    “…all of that pain that people are experiencing is being concentrated on this event," said Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D–N.Y.)

    NOW DO DAN PENNY!! The Marxist Left celebrates Luigi 1st degree murdering for their ideology, but condemns Dan Penny defending the defenseless.
    When they come for Trump, and when they come for Kyle Rittenhouse, J6’s and Dan Penny, and skip Trump hurricane victims, they literally ARE COMING FOR YOU AND ME.

  49. Zipcreature   5 months ago

    The Left justifies violence, except for Dan Penny. They are liars and hypocrites, so fuck what they say.

  50. Zipcreature   5 months ago

    Violence to make political change is DOMESTIC TERRORISM and it’s the Marxists USA who promote it under the guise of “Equity” “DEI” & “BLM”. They are merely memes for mMarxist to hide behind.

  51. XM   5 months ago

    If Mangione was a laid off employee who shot a Mexican CEO for outsourcing his job, the left wouldn’t be waxing poetics about empathy and lived experiences.

    The hypocrisy is just nauseating. If violence befalls one of their own, they hold the other side collectively responsible and demand nothing short of unconditional repudiation. If the situation was reversed, they hem and haw about context and circumstances.

    These people lectured the entire country on violent rhetoric for better part of a decade. They thought Trump saying “Kung flu” led to a wave of anti Asian violence. Do they Chastise their own for calling for his freedom and copycat acts?

    Beyond embarrassment. They’re 200% the reason why Trump won. Trump not have won in 2000.

  52. Peter Kreeft taught me LOGIC, BEWARE !!!!!!!   5 months ago

    AOC is luring psychos to harm her. THis is how it works.She is validating their rationalizations for the violence they presently commit. When she steps outside their acceptable behavior she will be a target. That is the pscho logic she is encouraging.
    It deplore all such violence but I can see that she is making herself a target by such stupid talk.

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